• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    4 hours ago

    Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?

    Yes and no. The people who did nothing but repeat and amplify that? Sowing division (see GiveSomeFucks, Return2Ozma, etc)

    The people who made valid points but weren’t beating that drum continuously? Legit criticism for the most part.

    Either way, at the time, it was Biden or Trump, and the same two potential outcomes: Status quo (flawed but not fascism) or speedrun to fascism. There really shouldn’t have been a dilemma.

    It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.

    Good luck to them then. I’ll definitely be fighting the good fight, but I will absolutely not be working with the single-issue “oops, I accidentally helped bring fascism by completely failing to acknowledge the existence of a bigger picture” crowd - they’re on their own. We couldn’t count on them when it mattered, and I will not take that risk again.

    Edit: Clarity

    • Nutteman@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      As if you could tell who is part of that “single issue” crowd when fighting. You’re so caught up mad at a very very small minority who protest voted when you should be mad that we were even given such a shit choice in the first place. It’s time for action. Not for crying about people who would not have made a difference in the election. Joe had no chance of winning. Kamala maybe could have had one had she differentiated her campaign and wasn’t just Joe 2.0

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        6 hours ago

        we were even given such a shit choice in the first place

        This is a very important point. The Dems crowned not one, but two weak candidates and refused to change in any way that might have appealed to the voters they lost. The worst part is that they knew Biden’s presidency was unpopular and might cost them at the polls but were steadfast in their refusal to change in any meaningful way.

        Most Democratic voters were surprised by the loss solely because they don’t consume any media that doesn’t reinforce their personal biases.