• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    I drank milk from the tank and cream is the best. However, I still prefer pasteurized milk. If the MAGAts want to drink raw milk, let them and watch the green apple splatter flow.

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    You know what, just let it happen. I’ll just do my best to stay away from any milk for four years. We’ll see how things turn out afterwards.

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      Pathogens don’t care whether or not you spread them to other people who don’t drink raw milk, I’m afraid.

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        And people who care, actually do things like get vaccines, and believe doctors.

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          Unless they can’t, some people are immunocompromised. The world is more complicated than you think, so try thinking instead of reacting.

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            I dunno if we have them, because they are both only transmissible via tainted food or water. And, well, if you don’t drink or eat tainted food, you wont really have to worry, now will you?

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              You don’t know that you can’t have a vaccine against bacteria?

              Then maybe you’re out of your depth here.

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                  Dude, seriously stop digging. Vaccination is for viruses, not bacteria.

                  I get that you really love your raw milk, but that doesn’t entitle you to just make shit up.

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          There isn’t an available bird flu vaccine that we could manufacture fast enough to make it available even if we started right now. This is assuming that they let us have it instead of telling us to tough it out and take some vitamin C.

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              You didn’t even read that, did you?

              H5N1 continually mutates, meaning vaccines based on current samples of avian H5N1 cannot be depended upon to work in the case of a future pandemic of H5N1. While there can be some cross-protection against related flu strains, the best protection would be from a vaccine specifically produced for any future pandemic flu virus strain. Daniel R. Lucey, co-director of the Biohazardous Threats and Emerging Diseases graduate program at Georgetown University, has made this point, “There is no H5N1 pandemic so there can be no pandemic vaccine.”[34] However, “pre-pandemic vaccines” have been created; are being refined and tested; and do have some promise both in furthering research and preparedness for the next pandemic.[35] Vaccine manufacturing companies are being funded to increase flexible capacity so that if a pandemic vaccine is needed, facilities will be available for rapid production of large amounts of a vaccine specific to a new pandemic strain.[36]

              There is no guarantee that any “pre-pandemic” vaccines will work.

              But then, you think you can vaccinate against bacteria…

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                  No. No you can’t. Again, you really do not understand how any of this works. Pneumonia isn’t even a cause, it’s a symptom. I can be caused by fungi, viruses or bacteria. Saying you can vaccinate against pneumonia is like saying you can vaccinate against a runny nose. That’s literally not how anything works.

                  But please do keep digging.

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      I think that’s their point. Just let them be adults and decide. I think overall it’s a very calculate issue used as a proxy for something else. What I don’t understand is why the Democrats or people on the left haven’t seen this stuff for what it is. Also there’s no counter to this strategy. It’s like a weird game theory situation where one group is knows game theory and the other side knows how to play checkers

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        I think overall it’s a very calculate issue used as a proxy for something else.

        That much is true. Its a proxy for industry de-regulation.

        I’m all for people getting the raw milk they demand, because I hope it will lead to a quick demise.

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          Problem is, if they acquire a novel virus, they can basically send us into another pandemic.

          This kind of crap hurts everyone.

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            Honestly?

            It would not be a bad thing, if that were to happen in the US. Then, we wouldn’t be able to fuck over other countries, due to a severe lack of manpower.

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          Big Dairy would probably mark everything up, selling pasteurization as a premium feature.

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      The flu in general is great at swapping proteins with other strains many of which are extant in the population right now. Every human bird flu infection of which there are presently few is a chance for highly pathogenic bird flu to make a version that is more transmissible which might yet retain its present greater than covid lethality. If this happens millions could die among them the most vulnerable including the old and those with auto immune disorders. Most of these folks who would die don’t themselves drink raw milk for obvious reasons.

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        Well, thankfully, civilized nations around the globe will be able to contain the damage to mostly just the fascist Imperial States of America.

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    Sorry but how the fuck are insurance companies OK with this? They hold extreme amounts of power over the US. They are going to have to do ridiculous amounts of payouts for hospital bills.

    How the fuck are people’s life saving surgeries getting denied at pre-approval, but they are not denying people’s coverage for fucking drinking raw milk??

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      You haven’t heard? AI is going to automatically deny all those claims, problem solved.

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      They don’t pay out the bills lol. I imagine they’ll work on dismantling the ACA/“Obamacare.” Insurance will cover nothing.

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      Same as every other money minded entity, if they speak out they’ll be shouted down or destroyed. Ethics don’t matter, number go up.

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        Tuberculosis is also carried in unpastuerised milk. The US currently has the largest outbreak in its history.

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          Yeah, in Kansas City. From what I’ve been able to track down, Patient Zero came back from a recent trip to the Federated States of Micronesia. Current infected rate reported hit 66 people, but that might be higher.

          If you’re in the Midwest, brush up on symptoms to look for, and stay away from Nursing Homes and elementary schools if you’re vulnerable.

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        Bird flu? Human-to-human either isn’t happening, or is extremely rare, can’t remember.

        For now. If it mutates to become more contagious without becoming less deadly, that becomes an everyone problem

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      Except they’re also giving it to their kids, who are far more susceptible to the diseases

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          What you said is horrible and you should feel horrible.

          But your willing to sacrifice children’s lives for your own political goals is noted. Israel does something similar.

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              You really are not connecting A and B here.

              They said there should be a general strike. I said to them that 40% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck, meaning that missing work means not being able to feed and house their kids.

              They said they can just take their kids to a soup kitchen. Which, and I don’t know how to make this any clearer to you, will not stop their kids from getting taken away from them because they’re homeless.

              So you’re right, they aren’t responsible for other people’s kids and neither are you. You just both expect people to sacrifice them anyway.

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        Ok, so they get to watch their kids die at their own hands, and then head off to jail. Problem seems to be fixing itself.