• @Kissaki@feddit.de
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    989 months ago

    The most relevant paragraph:

    Now, using a new way of linking the clocks with ultra-fast lasers, researchers have shown that different kinds of optical atomic clocks can be placed a few kilometres apart and still agree within 1 part in 10¹⁸. This is just as good as previous measurements with pairs of identical clocks a few hundred metres apart, but about a hundred times more precise than achieved before with different clocks or large distances.

  • Fafner
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    879 months ago

    Tl;Dr They are trying to make a better atomic clock that could provide a more precise definition of a second then we currently have.

      • Fafner
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        199 months ago

        The more precisely you can count time, the more precisely and finely you can measure other things. This not only applies to fast phenomenon. It can also be used for syncing up multiple measurements made in different places; like that image of a black hole we got a couple of years ago.

        It’s another step in getting a finer resolution on the universe.

      • prole
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        69 months ago

        Precision? The answer was literally in the comment you replied to.

      • @Sylvartas@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        To… get a more precise definition of a second ? It’s already pretty precise but not 100% accurate so why not ?

    • @cynar@lemmy.world
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      59 months ago

      Unfortunately, there is no easy way to decimalise time for human use. If you make it useful for humans, it doesn’t sync well to a day. If you make it sync to a day, the resulting units are awkward for the human mind.

      Amusingly, for computers, time is decimalised! UTC is a fully metric time. It’s just simpler to constantly remap to and from UTC to a user’s time, than to train the user to use UTC.

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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        9 months ago

        For computers, Unix time is in binary. But yes.

        However, humans can get used to longer/shorter seconds, minutes and hours. Arguing the opposite is like saying the meter would never work because it doesn’t have a human body relation like feet. The problem is the sheer amount of documents, equipment and SI using the 24/60/60 system, and the indivisibility of 365.24.

        • @elscallr@lemmy.world
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          19 months ago

          The divisibility of 60 is useful, too. It has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 (plus any combination of the above) as factors making dividing time a relatively simple operation.

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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        9 months ago

        This would outdate centuries of equipment and scientific publications in the metric system.

        A better idea is the International Fixed Calendar:

        • @Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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          109 months ago

          I always get a semi when this calendar is mentioned, I love it so much! Maybe someday, this is what we’ll all be using.

        • @abhibeckert@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Uh, hell no. There should be ten months a year, ten days in a month, and ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour… and we should all use artificial lighting with scheduled blackout blinds to make the daylight hours line up. Putting everyone in the world on the one true timezone.

            • I'm back on my BS 🤪
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              19 months ago

              Today is Jan 1, 2312 . Tomorrow is Jan 1, 2313. My birthday is Jan 1 every 365 years for 1,095 years starting on year 2493, then Jan 1 366 years later. After that, repeat the thing.

              • @TeraFloppy
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                29 months ago

                So it would match what we all tell Steam is our birthday.

        • I'm back on my BS 🤪
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          39 months ago

          I like the spirit, but it needs tweaking. Sept, Oct, Nov, and Dec need to go back to being 7, 8, 9, & 10, respectively. Also, make the leap day at the end of the final month to keep all the weeks starting on the same day of the week.

          • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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            59 months ago

            29 June would be another non-weekday, much like Year Day.

            Which months would you (re)move to adjust Sep-Dec to 7-10? Personally, I would just rename all of them but no idea what they should be.

            • I'm back on my BS 🤪
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              29 months ago

              29 June would be another non-weekday, much like Year Day.

              That works for me!

              Which months would you (re)move to adjust Sep-Dec to 7-10?

              I would get rid of July and August because I don’t care for the Caesars. I guess we could expand the format and have a Quinquember and Sexamber.

              Personally, I would just rename all of them but no idea what they should be.

              Sounds like a fun idea to do with friends and keep it going as a running joke!

              • Jojo
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                29 months ago

                It doesn’t show on the calendar, but the description already said each month ends on a Sunday, so 29 June is a Sunday.

        • @Ultraviolet@lemmy.world
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          19 months ago

          If we’re doing that, we should fix the month names. We start off really strong with January, named after Janus, Roman god of doorways, transitions and new beginnings. Banger name for a month honestly. Things remain pretty solid up until June, then we completely drop the ball in the second half of the year. Honoring two egotistical tyrants, then we just give up and number the rest of the months, and incorrectly at that.

          • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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            19 months ago

            I would change month names entirely to prevent confusion with the old system. Viva la révolutión!

        • @TeraFloppy
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          19 months ago

          It seems the leap day should just be next to the New Year’s Day, not randomly in the middle of the year. Most people then get an extra long weekend (almost) every 4 years.

          • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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            19 months ago

            I agree: legacy devices that display the weekday will only need to be readjusted once in each year.

        • @Hardeehar@lemmy.world
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          -19 months ago

          So I become a Sol baby? Everything I have would need to be changed.

          The only winners here are the January babies.

    • @Omniraptor@lemm.ee
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      39 months ago

      It’ll likely happen once we move to living mostly in space (if we survive that long ofc)

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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        39 months ago

        With a full switch to metric, hopefully. We’ve lost a Mars probe to unit confusion already.

          • ChaoticNeutralCzech
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            49 months ago

            No but everyone’s life will be easier. Fortunately, most space agency empoloyees are scientists who embrace the metric system because it is less error-prone and does away with arbitrary conversion like in3 / floz. Space civilians will hopefully follow suit.

            Metric also has a different unit name for force (N) and mass (kg) as opposed to the ambiguous pound – which works well enough on Earth but not on bodies with different gravity.

  • Andreas
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    209 months ago

    Is this like when they made the kilogram some function of the speed of light instead of the weight of a metal ball in a French museum?

    • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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      49 months ago

      I misread that as “meat ball”, and now I’m kind of disappointed that we don’t use meatballs as a standard unit. “I’m 6 meatball subs and 3 balls high”, “The yacht is about 18 giant party subs long”, etc.

      • @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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        79 months ago

        Unfortunately this is a bit like the imperial system where you get multiple units of measurement. There is the standard foot-long, which is twelve inches, and there is the $5 foot-long™, which is only 11 inches

    • @Kethal@lemmy.world
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      Not exactly. The kilogram was redefined in a fundamentally different way, moving from an artifact, which will change with time, to a fundamental property of nature, that as far as anyone knows, will be the same at all times. The second was already defined in such a way. Any such definition still requires some sort of measurement though to get something usable. Different ways of measuring the same type of definition can be more precise, and in this redefinition they think they’ve found a more precise method that works in the same fundamental manner. Both measure the oscillation rate of atoms, but the proposed element is thought to give better precision.

  • radix
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    99 months ago

    Would this affect our lives on Earth?

  • Jake Farm
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    29 months ago

    Wont that fuck up the other measures that use the second as a basis?