• This right here is the kind of blind confidence someone smart and self aware could never fake. You have to be so far up your own ass or a page strait out of the dsm to say some shit like this.

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    “At this point, I think I pay enough talented people who know things to make it look like I actually know things so I can focus on acting like a fool on social media platforms and interviews.”

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        This is Narcissistic behavior, not exclusive to trump, but only because trump and musk are both Narcissists of a high caliber.

    • TheEmpireStrikesDak
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      Yep. Just watch any of Thunderfoot’s musk videos and you’ll see that clip featured at least once.

    • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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      What’s your evidence that he doesn’t know it? All these claims that he knows nothing, but I never see any proof or evidence.

      Like, yeah, he has a team, because nothing gets done with just one person. That is not evidence for him not knowing how things work.

          • @Mordex@lemmy.world
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            Let’s examine why your comment was interpreted as a troll statement.

            Message you responded to was asking if the captions actually matched what was said by this individual. The second bit notes the individual is known to be “full of it” which generally means “speaking nonsense, lying, or exaggerating”.

            Last I heard, musk has regularly exaggerated in his statements. And I believe has been known to lie on occasion.

            So, you have an honest question asking to find the source of the clip and your immediate response is, where is your proof he doesn’t know more than anyone else on the planet when it comes to manufacturing.

            Either you woefully misinterpreted the comment or you didn’t read it at all or the simplest answer, you’re a troll.

      • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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        The trim coming off of the Cybertruck while driving down the highway or the steering wheel coming off of his cars would hint that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

        Musk is the one making the claims. It’s his job to prove his own statements.

        • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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          Wait, if he’s only a talking head and doesn’t help or know anything then why is the steering wheel coming off his fault? Wouldn’t that be the fault of the engineers or manufacturing techs who work on it?

          • Redex
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            Because if he was truly such a genious he would know it’s not right and fix it himself, or in general know how to have higher quality assurances.

      • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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        My proof is that actually that my pet cat knows more about manufacturing than he does, therefore he doesn’t know the most. In fact, my cat knows literally everything possible to know about manufacturing. It’s amazing. And if you don’t believe me, then you need to show your evidence that it isn’t true. Also, my cat doesn’t routinely give misinformation about the capabilities of the products made by their companies.

      • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        He doesn’t work in manufacturing. He owns companies that work in manufacturing.

        I’m not a medical expert just because I pay my medical bills.

        • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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          He does both. He owns it. He also goes down onto the manufacturing floors and gets his hands dirty sometimes

          It’s like saying the doctor who owns his own clinic has no idea what the nurses do.

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            No, it’s like saying that a businessman who owns a hospital has no ideas what the doctors are doing, despite the fact that once a month he shows up in scrubs to push a patient’s wheelchair for a photo op.

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              Mmm, more like if the business man also spent all his time learning about medicine, got a degree in both medicine and business and spent time brainstorming and diagnosing patients

      • @Takumidesh@lemmy.world
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        I would say the fact that he isn’t a P.E. is enough for me.

        If he was some mastermind engineer like he claims, he could easily pass the FE without even needing to study.

        Everyone else in the world needs to prove their credentials, why doesn’t he?

        • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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          Everyone else in the world doesn’t need to prove their credentials, there are plenty of people who know what’s up without credentials. He has a Degree in physics and has self-taught himself many things. Some people are just good at learning things and he’s one of them.

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              Your guys are the ones accusing him of not knowing things. Doesn’t the burden of proof fall on you?

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                that’s… not how it works. if you’re going to make an outlandish claim that you know more about something than ANYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE WORLD then the burden of proof is on you to support that claim.

                obviously the guy knows a lot. but “more than anyone else” is a really stupid claim to make, one that only a fool would make. the actual most knowledgeable person wouldn’t go around claiming this. they are too busy manufacturing.

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        I think most people can believe that he knows something about manufacturing, but almost everyone doubts that he “knows more than anyone currently alive on this planet”. Those are quite different things.

          • @fosho@lemmy.ca
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            your mom has probably sucked more dicks than anyone else alive. I know this because I haven’t seen any evidence otherwise.

            you, sir, are quite the dingdong.

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              I didn’t come online and claim my mom didn’t. If I did, then I’d be putting up proof.

              You: lol, Elon stupid.

              Me: oh, I haven’t seen anything to make me say that, why do you say that?

              You: because he is

              Me: do you have any proof?

              You: lol, proof? I don’t need proof, and how dare you ask me for proof, you prove to me he doesn’t!

              …that’s not how this works, lol

  • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    When I was a kid my parents wouldn’t let me make my own pinewood derby car, even though I had done one already without issue the previous year. My dad then proceeded to put a 1/2" drill bit through his hand while doing it for me. I always found that kind of funny.

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      Unfortunately he has similar real-world experience to trump’s: Be a total shitbag and get handsomely rewarded by it in the ways he cares about. I mean why care about being a horrible husband and father when there’s money and fame to be had?

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    I work in manufacturing industry as a production planner. Although I am in a central position, from everything that happens on the factory floor to make a complete product, I know surprisingly little. There are so mind bogglingly many little details in the process. That’s why there are so fucking many of us here.

    From where I’m sitting, the higher you go on the management ladder more clueless people are about the actual manufacturing process. They don’t need to know to do their job. They just need to listen when somebody who knows tells them the abbreviated version when necessary.

    Elon does not appear to be a listener.

    He’s just a pompous narcissist or possibly a full blown psycho. Not sure what his tallent is.

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      Its many reasons the saturn V can never be rebuilt. We know the plans and specs, but all the details of the manufacturering were all held by the people doing the work. Each one was unique.

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      The more proficient and knowledgeable in a topic you are you usually tend to see how much you don’t know yet.

      Rarely someone who is actually good is going to claim to know the most in a topic.

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      The charitable interpretation is that it was just hyperbole as a joke. Unfortunately, for that to be true, he would have to think it’s a ridiculous thing to say and I’m not sure he does.

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      I like to shit on Elon as much as the next person, but as someone who works in aerospace mfg, if he understands 3% of SpaceX’s manufacturing and supply chain he is already in the top 99.9999999%. What they have accomplished is absolutely unfathomable and why we have to make exceptions when hiring experienced SpaceX people into our company to pay 2-3x standard pay for them. They really really know their shit and are making everyone in the industry better by leaving SpaceX.

      Edit: ITT a bunch of people who have never held a real job outside of ex-Reddit mod and pretending to be an tankie while mommy and daddy pay all of your bills, pretending they understand mfg ops and supply chain. Optimization is extremely difficult and at my last tech job we had to hire a bunch of PhDs to help us figure out a supply chain network issue. The simulations would have to run for hours and took thousands in compute daily.

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        Elon musk said he was a genius about space ships. I don’t know anything about space ships, so I believed him.

        Then he said he was a genius about electric cars. I don’t know anything about electric cars, so I believed him then too.

        Now he says he’s the most brilliant software engineer to ever live and unfortunately for Elon, I know quite a bit about software and he is completely full of shit.

        Now he’s got me second guessing his space ships and cars too.

      • @redwattlebird
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        And we’re saying that Elon knows <1% of any manufacturing process, evidenced by inconsistencies of manufacturing process across all his companies. The employees know more, yes, but they are not Elon and Elon is not SpaceX.

        And, for starters, not unfathomable but made possible through VC money and years of R&D. This makes it possible and completely fathomable. It’s all maths and science.

      • @bmdhacks@lemmy.world
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        Former twitter engineer here. Maybe he paid more attention at his other companies but Elon was comically clueless about how the twitter machine worked. Hiring geohot and thinking a firmware cracker could make heads or tails of a massively distributed system was pure idiocy.

        • @kerrypacker@lemmy.world
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          Okay and how do you really think twitter has been affected? Is it less influential than before he bought it? Less functional? As an outsider it sure doesn’t seem like it.

          • @chaogomu@lemmy.world
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            It’s quite a bit less functional. There have been dozens of high profile outages and service interruptions.

      • Bro claims to be the Chief Engineer while shitposting all day and being CEO of five other companies.

        I do not believe that narrative, I don’t know about you. What I do know is that the single bit of confirmed “engineering” I’ve seen accredited to him is once using epoxy on a cracked part in front of a crowd of journalists, which I’m sure was a very organic and legitimate problem.

        It’s possible that SpaceX is a result of him having an eye for talent, but quite frankly I think he probably just hired one person with that eye instead and could afford to pay for the people that person recommends.

        Is that his talent? Having an eye for people who have an eye for talent? Maybe, I don’t know the bureaucratic details, but I don’t believe he’s that involved otherwise. He physically does not have the time to be so, and now that fucking goofball is entering politics too.

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          No no no, you must understand the truth about Elon!

          The average CEO supposedly works 60 hour a week. Elon is in charge of two companies. That is 120 hours a week.

          He also has involvement in no less than five other corporations. Giving each company 20 hours a week combines to another 100 hours a week.

          He has twelve crotch goblins he loves and takes care of. Let’s say he gives each kiddo a generous 10 hours each so that adds 120 hours to his week.

          He spends a lot of time doing drugs and twatting on Twitter. He spends about 40 hours on these tasks.

          Now he is going to be helping run the US government and promises to work another 80 hours a week.

          Don’t forget he is a lover and spends at least 20 hours a week trying to fuck the women who work for him.

          Let’s see that adds up to about 480 hours a week! And that is not even counting him sleeping, eating, or shitting. What an amazing man he is! Imagine if you had that much time to do all that.

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          Yeah, this is the guy who takes everyone else’s accomplishments for himself. The only reason why SpaceX is so damn good at what it does is because he’s not allowed to be more than a figurehead

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            Ever wonder why his talk about Tesla is so stilted? He doesn’t know how it started. I listened to one of the actual founders and he was talking in and out about EVs and the business model of Tesla. Elon takes a couple of their brochure points and that’s all he can say.

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        Fucking idiots will down vote you but this is the truth and something a lot of people who work or have worked with Musk say. The guy knows his shit. He didn’t get to be the richest guy on earth because of South African emeralds or whatever. He’s changing the world. Love him or hate him, you don’t matter. If you think he’s a moron then do better and take him down.

        • @redwattlebird
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          He became the richest guy on earth because the system is set up to give you infinite money when you hit critical mass of wealth. Why do you think the rich keep getting richer and the poor get poorer?

          He did not get here because he’s smart; he’s rich and was too rich to fail. He got a leg up in emerald mines which allowed him to gamble and invest during the early internet days, thus allowing him to continue to invest/gamble.

          He’s certainly helping to change the world but not for the better. His philosophies that guide his policies are inciting violence and giving rise to racism and misogyny.

          I definitely think he’s a moron, but the system is set up so that I can’t possibly take him or his ilk down. I wasn’t born into a family that owned heaps of wealth and slavery. I’m not a white male.

          But in % comparisons, my quality of life is much better than his. That’s where I can take him down.

          End rant.

        • @piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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          If i had emerald money backing up my opportunities and had no soul… i probably could find a way to exploit the system to a mass vast amount of money.

          Besides most of his “wealth” is all tied up in stocks. Him holding onto the shares is largely the only reason they maintain any value. Everytime he sells or uses them as collateral, the prices shift wildly downward.

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          My plan to “do better” in my life involves being very different from him and not striving to be the more rich and powerful shithead that takes his place.

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    I wouldn’t expect anything less of Phony Stark.

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        I can’t claim origin for that, but I think it fits. Feel free to use :)

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      Loved the initial laughs

      (Noting I’m not in a position to judge his claim, but that’s OK as plenty of other commenters are comfortable doing so)

      • @Siegfried@lemmy.world
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        Im pretty confortable saying that anyone that calls himself “the best THING currently alive” is an idiot

        • @Routhinator@startrek.website
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          When I got into computers the tech that trained me in my first coop placement in high school told me, on day one, “Anyone who ever tells you they know everything about computers is an idiot.”

          Still resonates with me today and I always tell juniors the same.

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          Heh, well they are certainly unafraid of being perceived as self-centered!

          Better when others are the ones to hype someone up with a high superlative like this guy I found:

          In an informal poll at a 1990 cosmology conference, Witten received the largest number of mentions as “the smartest living physicist”.

          Edward Witten

          Oh Mr. Musk, why must you do the silly stuff… so many big, expensive distractions (to say the very least)…