• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
        153·
        11 months ago

        The themes of celebrating diversity are absolutely the same. The difference I see is mainly the cinematography, story structure, and pacing. SNW and Lower Decks are a lot closer to what Trek has been in those aspects than Discovery was.

        Again: Not saying Disco is bad at all. (Except for having a reaction shot of every one of the dozens of people on the bridge any time anything interesting happens. Those irk me.)

        EDIT: After further consideration, I’ve decided that Disco is Trek, but it’s a series of Trek movies and not a series of TV episodes. But the last season is still the same premise as Andromeda.

    • whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world
      102·
      11 months ago

      Disclaimer: Only Trek I had watched beforehand was Lower Decks (loved it) and SNW (loved it) in that order. With that said, here are my opinions nobody asked for:

      • S1 had its flaws but I was there for dark, depressing, and moody.
      • SNW cast carried the fuck out of S2 and the plot was good too imo.
      • First half of S3 was promising…but they fucked it up so utterly and completely in the second half that it was hard to take the rest of the show seriously afterwards.
      spoiler

      SPOILER START
      They COMPLETELY lost me with the source of the burn, it was one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a hot minute.

      They had me again with the Giorgio redemption stuff in S4(?), but it was all downhill from there.

      SPOILER END

      I had to forward through starting from the second half of Season 4 just to get through it. It got so ridiculously boring. I was hoping it’d get better and I could watch normally again but it just didn’t.

      Watching TNG now and I’m loving it. Can be a bit slow sometimes but still enjoyable.

      Edit: Does boost not do spoiler tags?

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 months ago

        Re your spoiler:

        spoiler

        I agree. Out of all the reasons they could have come up with for The Burn being caused by a distraught Kelpian was one that was mostly just designed for an emotional ending rather than basic decent sci-fi.

        That was really an issue with Discovery for me overall, they wanted to do the ‘tug your heartstrings’ before doing anything else. There needs to be a balance for me.

        I do like that Seasons 3 and 4, for all of their flaws (and 4 had massive flaws), tried to do their best to undo the darkness of the first season by restoring Starfleet and the Federation in the far future.

        • whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

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          Yes! “Tug your heartstrings before doing anything else” hits the nail on the head! They completely forgot the part where they actually have to earn it. When you try to make people care without putting in the legwork, it just builds resentment. Then they try to play it off like “he is now Saru’s ward and an important part of Kelpian society or whatever the hell that was?”…a lazy " shit happens in space" would’ve been a better explanation than that tbh.

          I liked what they tried with the later seasons and the new federation too. However, I feel like they swung too far in the other direction from S1 where they got too scared to have actual stakes and started doing the transparent holywood thing of introducing new characters (or trying to give an old character more plot than they had in 4 seasons) in the first 10 mins of an episode, killing them off, then expecting you to care because characters you actually know liked them.

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