• Chozo
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    Oh cool, so they’re mixing their 2008 (racism) and 2016 (sexism) campaign strategies together.

    • Ogmios
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      Funny how many -isms come out in the media every time people don’t agree with the establishment line.

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        When the headlines are about random maga types being quoted calling her “little whore” and n-words - it’s clear that yeah, the -isms are indeed out and about, the media is just reporting it.

        The reality cannot be denied, they aren’t deep faking the clips.

        The maga crowd dosnt counter her policies, her voting record, her career, her speech, her age, her cognitive function

        They go after what she was born with and what that crowd has been indoctrinated to hate.

        That’s where the ism’s come from.

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          That legitimate debate is impossible while the media is hyper-focused on everything but. That’s exactly why reporting on racism exploded after occupy came dangerously close to threatening the banker’s cartel.

            • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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              They’re disingenuously pretending that the media is conflating bigotry with legitimate criticism rather than the far right employing the former much more often than the latter.

          • Diplomjodler
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            So the media shouldn’t report racist and sexist attacks? And can you point us to any sources of Republicans actually making any sort of good faith attempt at an honest debate about the issues? Because i haven’t seen any in a very long time.

            • Ogmios
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              It’s not, but you’re being focused on that instead of any of the many people who actually do have real issues they’d like to discuss.

          • @SirDerpy@lemmy.world
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            Neolibs don’t want to think any more than the MAGA cult. Yeah, it’s the fault of mass media. But, the last thing they want to hear while running in fear of Trump is that they’re a bigger obstacle to progress than Trump. They won’t even accept it from MLK Jr’s letter from Birmingham jail.

            • @ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world
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              Lol!!!

              It’s so funny seeing people actually still think maga is anything but a king making cult.

              I ain’t American, but fuck it it fun y watching certain Americans be so horrendously thick.

              Enjoy your king!

      • Flying Squid
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        Are you actually suggesting that calling her the N-word is simply disagreeing with the establishment line?

      • TheHarpyEagle
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        People have called her and Biden “Joe and the Hoe”, have implied she slept her way to the top, have called her a diversity hire, have invoked the heritage project to oust her. So yes, they’ve gotten racist and sexist very fast.

      • @ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world
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        When it’s for legitimate reasons.

        Funny how many racist comments come out in media every time people don’t like the colour of the candidate but never finished school so can’t actually engage with their work.

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        Funny how many -isms -ists come out
        in the media
        every time people don’t agree with the establishment line.

        Edit: I realized I wasn’t very clear.

        • Flying Squid
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          I will ask you what I asked the person you are agreeing with here: Is calling Kamala Harris the N-word just not agreeing with “the establishment line?” Because that’s what this is about.

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            I was in disagreement. I removed media from the equation because I believe all the -ists are the real reason these -isms show up no matter the circumstance.

    • @ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world
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      Why is it that Americans insist on giving maga people and the rest different standards.

      As a foreigner, it’s so obvious and aggravating. The people that speak on the left just suck it up and play nice. It’s the worst.

    • @Sunroc@lemmy.world
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      Biden SLAMS Trump over Ukraine! Macron claps back! I was actually just thinking about the phrases that must have been used in journalism for the turn of the century that were considered to be equal to this low quality journalism

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    I think you mean far-right trolls punch themselves in the dick by sabotaging their outreach efforts to black voters. Don’t let me get in their way.

  • @SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    This is unironically good for Kamala’s chances. The average person in the US is racist, but not racist enough to not to feel second hand embarrassment from such overt comments, which may, ironically, make them a little bit less racist and make them think twice before voting Republican in 2024.

  • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    I know that bullshit appeals to other trolls… but isn’t open racism actually counterproductive at this point? Most voters alive today never knew a world where interracial marriage was illegal - and most of us grew up in public schools being exposed to a wide variety of cultures.

    • @solrize@lemmy.world
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      You might have been around when Obama ran for president. Yes it was an issue, including after he was elected. Long form birth certificate anyone?

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          I distinctly remember people holding signs of Obama’s face pasted on the body of a chimpanzee. Another honorary mention from the campaign was the slogan “keep the white house white”.

          The racism was so fucking blatant and Republicans expect us to pretend it never happened.

      • @retrospectology@lemmy.world
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        Did he not win both terms?

        Dems don’t lose the next election because the right-wing is racist, they lose when they fail to listen to their base and try to gaslight their constituents. The energy created when young voters, progressives and independents are given a reason to go out and vote smashes any kind of advantage the GOP tries to glean from playing the bigotry cards. Clinton was not that reason.

        People need to let go of this idea that Democrats’ job is to appeal to the right and be conciliatory. Conservatives don’t vote democrat, regardless of how far to the right the Dems go. They only play up the swing voter fantasy to weaken democrats and get neoliberals going off on a wild goose chase for votes they’ll never secure while at the same time neglecting and demoralizing their own base.

      • @ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world
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        I’m not saying Americans are t capable. Particularly mags people… (They are sub special needs on just basic human intelligence and awareness to scams…)

        But that was 16+ years ago…

    • @jeffw@lemmy.worldOPM
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      It was bad for Barack because he was Black. It was bad for Hillary because she was a woman. Kamala gets the best of both worlds

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    I’ve accepted the racism and sexist thing as a real risk for Kamala. But I think most Democrats have accepted it too and are coalescing around her.

    Here we go people. Buckle up and prepare for a ton of racist and sexist attacks. I assume the Lawyer / Prosecutor experience for Harris will come in handy for this and she’ll come up with good Rhetoric / political plan for the situation.

    Arizona Senator Mark Kelly for VP could help insulate Kamala from these attacks. A lot of good VP picks actually could help.

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      Risk? It’s great. Racist and sexist people were not gonna vote Democrat anyway. All this is doing is alienating the black and female Republican voter base.

      • @VelvetStorm@lemmy.world
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        The women who were on the fence won’t be swayed by this. If you are a woman and you were even slightly thinking about voting for Trump then you are already so far to the right that nothing i can think of will get you to change your mind.

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            If you are a woman and were somehow still on the fence about going to vote then I don’t see how this could change your mind considering all the shit trump said in the past about women and how the gop treats women’s rights.

            When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” He adds seconds later: “Grab them by the p----. You can do anything

            All of the women on ‘The Apprentice’ flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected. A sexual dynamic is always present between people, unless you are asexual.

            It doesn’t really matter what (the media) write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.

            “Somebody who’s been very vicious to me, Rosie O’Donnell, I said very tough things to her, and I think everybody would agree that she deserves it and nobody feels sorry for her.” — Trump at the first presidential debate in September 2016.

            If you were considering not voting already I don’t see how the trolls will change your mind when that was the shit a former president and current front runner for the presidential race said.

            Let’s not forget this one

            “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.

    • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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      She’ll probably win anyway, but we’re going to have reams of material by the end of it for the next time R’s are feigning ignorance about why everyone thinks they are racist bigots.

  • Silverseren
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    I admit, I wasn’t expecting them to go as far as using “Colored” as a general insult. Do they seriously think this helps Trump’s chances?