[Image description: a perfectly round peeled bulb of garlic on a cutting board, with unpeeled normal cloves behind it.]

  • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    1394 months ago

    That’s not done yet. Garlic looks like this when it hasn’t ‘split’ into the clove parts yet. This will be bland and only have a mild flavor.

    • thrawnOP
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      654 months ago

      That makes sense, he was really undersized compared to the rest.

      • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        664 months ago

        So you’ve got two modes of reproduction with Allium. Allium like this typically follows a biennial habit, so this years garlic will split into cloves around the fall, in preparation for sending up a flowering stalk next spring/ summer. The cloves are vegetative propagules; just another way to get more garlic other than seeds. Hence you can just plant a clove and get a garlic next year, or, you can plant seed and also get garlic.

        Now for your actually question, I believe the segmentation is probably exogenous, technically yes, however, I am by no means an expert in Allium morphology (although I have done graduate coarse work in plant morph, and worked in a plant morph lab), so don’t quote me. However, it wouldn’t appear like you are describing. Think of the ring at the base of a clove of garlic as a bunch of ‘stems’. The branching would originate there.

    • @Pheral@lemmy.world
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      14 months ago

      This is amazing info to me. I’ve been growing garlic at a hobby level for ages and never knew how the bulbs develop. Thank you for sending me down a garlic education rabbit hole!

    • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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      Here is another mildy interesting fact, in Swedish we group onions and garlic together by using the word “lök” with a color and different spacing to differentiate them:

      “lök” - onion

      “gul lök” - onion or yellow onion

      “rödlök” - red onion

      “vitlök” - garlic

      We never talk about “vit lök”, it doesn’t really exist as a concept in Swedish, but we have more types of “lök”…

      “gräslök” directly translates to “grass onion”, but the proper translation is “chives”

      “prujolök” is the Swedish name for “leek”

      • Skua
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        Garlic, onions, chives, and leeks (plus shallots, spring onions / scallions, and ramsons) are actually very closely related, being part of the same allium genus. That’s the same level of closeness as dogs to wolves, for example my example is bad, see AlotOfReading below

        • @AlotOfReading@lemmy.world
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          54 months ago

          Dogs and wolves are the same species (Canis Lupus), not just members of the same genus. Genus Allium is much bigger than genus Canis (over 800 species) and its members are much less closely related to each other. The common food species are at least evolutionary cousins though, unlike other parts of the category. The onions and chives all share subgenus Cepa, while garlic and leeks are off in subgenus Allium.

          • Skua
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            24 months ago

            Ahh, I think I was misled by reading Canis familiaris. Thanks for the correction

      • mommykink
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        74 months ago

        i love swedish. i drive an old volvo every day and frequently end up on weird SE-language forums as a result.

          • @viking@infosec.pub
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            Yes, hvitløk = vitlök in Swedish. It’s the same word really (the h is silent), and ø (Norwegian, Danish) = ö (Swedish, Finnish, German).

            • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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              24 months ago

              Ah, I think you missed the spacing when I said that “vit lök” wasn’t a thing in Swedish, “vitlök” is as you say “garlic”, and is a common word

          • ✺roguetrick✺
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            4 months ago

            Du lukter skitgott, but not when you’re eating vitlök, broder. (This is the extent of my swedish)

            • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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              24 months ago

              Allmost…

              lukter is incorrect, it is luktar instead.

              The other Swedish words are correct, even if we seldom use “skitgott”, unless you are 5-10 years old or so.

              The normal word is “jättegott”

              • ✺roguetrick✺
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                I screw it up because I use it in both Norwegian and swedish. It’s du lukter dritgodt in Norwegian. I generally forget how to properly spell “drag it to hell” between the two. And in my heart I’m 5-10.

        • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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          54 months ago

          “vitlök” - garlic

          “vit lök” - “white onion”

          White onions does not exist.

        • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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          14 months ago

          one is a word, the other is a word with a descriptor in front of it. like greenhouse vs green house, one means a building made of glass where you grow stuff, the other is a house painted the colour green.

      • @vaionko@sopuli.xyz
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        34 months ago

        Exactly the same in Finnish also. I wonder if these words came from Swedish into Finnish, even though our languages share different ancestors. I imagine all these onions came a lot after the base Swedish / Finnish was already established.

      • HonkyTonkWoman
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        What about Shallots? Do they also have a lök name?

        E: Nevermind, just saw your response below!

      • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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        04 months ago

        We never talk about “vit lök”, it doesn’t really exist as a concept in Swedish,

        Do you mean to say there isn’t garlic in Sweden??

        • RBG
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          54 months ago

          They mean there is no white onion.

        • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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          34 months ago

          As I said, garlic is called “vitlök”, not “vit lök”

          “Vit lök” means “white onion”, and does not exist

            • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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              24 months ago

              Because I just explained it and even noted the spacing difference between “vitlök” and “vit lök”

              • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                -44 months ago

                You didn’t explain it originally. You could have easily but you didn’t. Apologies for being curious. I do know that most Swedes aren’t jerks.

                • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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                  54 months ago

                  I try to not be a jerk, and this is what I wrote in my inital comment in this thread.

                  we group onions and garlic together by using the word “lök” with a color and different spacing to differentiate them:

                  So yes, I did mention the spacing

  • Dojan
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    4 months ago

    There’s a particular variety of Chinese garlic that grows as a singular bulb. It originates in the Yunnan province, I think. I remember my mother growing it back when I was a child. It’s really nice!

  • @rjthyen@lemm.ee
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    144 months ago

    Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but a garlic plant grows some form of a “seed” head, that will have miniature round bulbs in it if they aren’t clipped off that, it’s my understanding, when they are planted they’ll grow like this in the first year and into a normal garlic bulb year two. I’ve never experimented enough to know if I’m correct, but if my info is correct I’d guess either one of those got mixed in by mistake, or if your planting in the same spot as the year prior one might’ve just fallen off.

    • @DinosaurSr@programming.dev
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      4 months ago

      I got one of those this year. I grow hard neck and must have missed the scape on this one.

      The bulb and the “seed head”(?) in the pic are the same plant, just bent in half so both are visible

      • @rjthyen@lemm.ee
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        24 months ago

        Missed the whole scape not just one individual bulb I’m guessing? My brain was struggling to piece together what i was looking at lol

        • @DinosaurSr@programming.dev
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          24 months ago

          Haha yeah sorry that’s a bad pic. The scape is the curly thing that grows off the top of the plant in the spring, and then and flowers. If you’re growing garlic, you’d normally cut the scape so that the plant puts more energy into the bulb instead of the flower. Here’s a pic of the whole thing:

  • @oo1
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    124 months ago

    ate the onion

  • @bitchkat@lemmy.world
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    54 months ago

    That would have been great when my ex made lasagna and he didn’t know the difference between a clove and a bulb.

    • thrawnOP
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      34 months ago

      It might be! That was one of the varieties I planted this year, though the cloves I put in the ground looked like normal shaped cloves, just scaled up a bit.

      • @Pheral@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        I’m actually second-guessing my elephant garlic thought… I planted my first clove this year and it took a month and a half to sprout!!! I thought it had died due to heat, but I finally saw its thumb-sized sprout coming up a couple days ago. My normal garlic only takes a week or so to sprout over here in AZ. The elephant garlic seed leaves look more like an iris or tulip coming up. That one commenter was probably on point, saying the bulb was too young to start segmenting into cloves. That was news to me and I’m over the moon about it! Thank you so much for posting about this in the first place!!!

        • thrawnOP
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          24 months ago

          I had the exact same experience with the elephant garlic, they took forever to sprout, long enough that I actually dug one of them up to check that they hadn’t been eaten or something.