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    Monarchy. It’s the 21st Century and y’all still pay people to live a lavish lifestyle because they are distantly related to some warlord from the 9th century

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      Then again, the people in all countries pay for the lifestyle of the politicians… in addition to the bribes they get for deciding in favor of whichever corporate and/or rich person needs a specific law passed or vetoed.

      At least the monarchs do what you pay them for … entertain you.

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          Politicians don’t do shit in America. Corporations govern the country and you can’t vote them out.

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        The King in the UK was caught with briefcases full of money declared as a ‘donation’. He has also interfered in our politics including encouraging the government to buy ineffective homeopathic ‘medicines’. They have also stopped the conviction of serious sex crimes royals have committed. Because the police get the power granted by royalty and can’t persecute them.

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          I would be fine with it, if they were not allowed any other incomes during the time they get payed by the people.

          Oh and of course they should be forced to do their jobs. If they don’t fully attend sessions, cut their pay.

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          You’re taking this too serious.

          I’m referencing crane driver Ronny in Norway (“Kranplätze müssen verdichtet sein!” : crane parking needs to be condensed (ground)), a reality TV icon in German language online communities and because the quote and context applies to both Norway and the UK which are both European, but not EU countries (that’s relevant because that’s part of the referenced joke), I posted that comment.

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      I was listening a podcast about cancer patient in France.

      One talk was about the fact that the surgeon was planning on removing the breast tumor AND do the reconstruction directly after.

      Except that by doing that the operation would have cost more than what the national social security covers, so it meant a big premium for the patient.

      The “big” premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

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        The “big” premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

        European here: I agree with this being outrageous. It’s not about the money, it’s about being a civilised society.

        Now hospital parking on the other hand…

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      We do have some steep copayments for some treatments as well. For example, if I had to go to the hospital for a month I’d have to pay about 1000 EUR myself.

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        I was in the hospital for an outpatient procedure a couple of years ago here in the U.S. So not even overnight. I have good insurance. It cost me $2500.

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        If I had to go into the hospital for a month, I truly would rather kill myself than have that shit looming over my for the rest of my life.

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          The trick is: Just don’t pay these fuckers, what are they going to do? Show up and kill you?

          Maybe you get sued, but maybe they don’t even bother because it’s not worth the cost of lawyers.

          Either way, money isn’t worth dying for, even in a fucked up dystopian system.

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          I think that amount is way too high. Nowadays I could afford it without problems, but a few years back spending some time in hospital would’ve messed up my budget.

          I might be fine with paying for elective procedures - but hospital stays for other reasons should be covered by healthcare.

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            I agree it should all be free for non-elective procedures, but that’s pretty much the cost of a few hours at an American hospital. The fact I thought you were being sarcastic and were not really reinforces how messed up our healthcare system is

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    Specific to Germany, but when a second cashier opens up, it’s a first come first serve rush for it, rather than letting the person next inline at the original cashier take the first spot in the new one.

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    I belong to neither of these groups. But here goes it.

    Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

    People in electric scooters are out of control. Specially in Spain. They’re the most egregious when it comes to disrespecting pedestrian crosswalks, dangerous overtaking in bike lanes and all around assholeness. You shouldn’t ride your fucking patinete in a train station crowded with people.

    — —-

    People from the US: Your tipping culture is out of control. It’s good for outstanding service on certain scenarios. But not for handing me takeout or pulling out a foamy beer from a cooler.

    Also , don’t tell newly-aquatinted people from the south that you’re not religious. They’ll try to tell you it’s their duty to save your soul and try to make you go to their religious services, which antagonizes them if you try to set boundaries on your personal beliefs.

    Btw. I still like you both.

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      Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

      I like the taste of TV static. Sue me!

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        Dude I love seltzer. Especially fruit-flavored seltzer…but club soda is pretty good too. I don’t really like unflavored seltzer though, but it depends on a lot…the brand, the bottle, whether or not there’s a straw…a lot of variance in the bubbles.

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          Definitely! The water flavor by itself is very important, though I’ve noticed that the carbonation process masks slightly bad flavors pretty well. I make my own seltzer with tap water which is pretty good here luckily :)

          One I love is Apfelschorle - apple juice with seltzer. A little juice goes a long way!

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            How do you make your seltzer? Soda stream or some other contraption?

            Do you use “apple juice” or do you like…make ice cubes out of a can of concentrate and throw a cube into a homemade bottle of seltzer?

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              Soda stream, yep!

              And it’s literally just one part apple juice to like three parts seltzer, both mixed in a glass of jug. No ice cubes or anything :)

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      American here, I saw a tip jar for the cashiers in a flea market yesterday. I completely agree, it’s out of control. It would be great if employers would just pay their employees properly instead of asking customers to subsidize wages.

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    • No ice in their water or soda
    • No refills on fountain drinks

    These are the things that stood out to me whenever I have visited.

    I spent a good while in Berlin once and one of my favorite restaurants was this Australian themed place by the IMAX theater just because I could get a nice big Diet Coke with ice in it. Their kangaroo sandwich also wasn’t half bad.

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      We’re not getting refills anyway, I’d rather not have 80% ice with a bit of soda

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        The process of a soda fountain makes already it cold.

        Ice is completely pointless and without it you don’t need refills

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          Ice keeps the soda cold throughout your meal.

          In Europe my soda was often pretty close to room temperature by the time my food arrived. Not great if you like your beverages “ice cold”. But I get the impression Europeans don’t like their drinks as cold as we do in the US to begin with.

          We also use larger glassware in the US, which offsets much of the volume displaced by ice.

          So no, ice is not “completely pointless”, it’s just a cultural difference 🙂

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            larger glassware

            Thinking of a typical US fast food soda cup: understatement. For comparison, a German McDonald’s “Large” (the largest available) is 0.5 liters (17 oz). In the US, a “Medium” is 18 oz (0.53 l) or 21 oz (0.62 l) depending on who you ask, and, it goes to 30 (0.89 l) or 32 oz (0.95 l). And I’ve seen complaints that Wendy’s shrank their large from 40 oz (1.18 l) to 35 oz (1.04 l). That’s not a cup, that’s a bucket!

            A sit down restaurant in Europe will typically have soft drink serving sizes from 0.2 to 0.4 liters. The 0.2 is… unsatisfactory.

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          I drink 2 pitchers of tea with a meal. I will need refills with or with out ice in my glass.

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            According to Google, 1 pitcher has a volume of 1.89 liters. If we assume they’re mostly full (1.8l), that would be 3.6l of tea. It’s recommended that you don’t drink more than roughly 1l per hour.

            You either eat very slowly, or you’re doing bad things to your body.

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      It’s a thing cause its not really as normalized, people don’t really drink enough to get free refills in some places (although many places have free refills) and people here are generally used to warmer colas, although many people and places do add ice

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      Fountain drink: Depends on the restaurant. Some Burger Kings and McDs did have it, some removed it (probably exploited)

      I don’t want ice in my damn soda or ice.
      If you like it, ask the staff for some. They will usually give it to you.

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      I’m a fucking fiend for ice in my water, like I literally will fill the cup full of ice first, then put water in the space that’s left. When I visited Europe it was fucking rough getting used to never having ice. And if you asked for it (which I tried not to do, but I caved a few times) they’d give you like 3 cubes

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        I absolutely hate ice in my drinks and have to always request it without or it gets added, this is in the UK

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      Or the fact that you have to pay for fucking water. It’s a God damned human right but you have to pay the same for water as any other drink at restaurants in Europe. By the glass. And the glasses hold exactly one to two mouthfulls of water.

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    I mean, it might just be a rumor but I hear that instead of being born with arms, Europeans are born with baguette extremities. They nibble on their baguette arms throughout the day, and they grow back while they’re sleeping.

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      We are not ruled by our monarchy. Their role is purely ceremonial. But yes they are of German descent.

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        It’s ceremonial only by convention. Most of the monarchy’s power still legally exists, which to me is ridiculous

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            Nothing! Because they already use that power, just not in public. They blatantly exercise their powers to extort judges/politicians/media to their benefit.

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            They’d be deposed, obviously. Thing is, the very act of deposing them would be an extralegal action, as all laws in the UK are established under the crowns authority. Legally speaking it would be the equivalent of a non-violent coup. Hence ceremonial by convention(de facto), rather than by law(de jure).

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            There would definitely be a huge backlash. But also a very vocal minority who would probably support them. The end result would be some long overdue changes to our constitutional setup, but given the current state of UK politics, this would be delivered at the end of a highly polarising and disruptive period (I’m thinking Brexit vote level of rancour).

            Would be better if we just nipped this in the bud now. Remove the monarchy’s constitutional power, and make them fund themselves with their huge existing wealth. They can keep the titles and ceremonies for all I care, just pay for it themselves

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            Every new law passed is signed off by the monarch, a new PM still has to ask royal permission to form a government etc. In practice, these are purely formalities and are treated as such, but still legally there

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        We (NL) have distantly German monarchs. Currently half our Royal Pair is from 🇦🇷 Argentina, which is neat.

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      What annoys me more is that they’re British (/j). But nah they’re hardly foreign it’s just like their grandad or great grandad, you could make an equal claim that trump is German I think (off the top of my head).

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        They belong(ed) to the german royal house “Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha” and changed their name to “Windsor” after WW1 to not be affiliated with germany anymore. I don’t know if that’s enough to call them foreign though.

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          A “house name” represents only one of a person’s many ancestors.

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    I met up for lunch with a buddy and his partner who was visiting from Europe. I mentioned that I drink a lot of water and asked for a refill, they asked if water was free.

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      Typically they ask you for still or sparkling while dining and they charge in Europe. In London, I typically just say, “tap”. They had to legally serve it.

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      It depends on the country, in Greece it’s usually free, maybe in touristy places or if you order bottled water you will be charged, but otherwise most places will give you cold tap water for free.

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        I think it’s legally required to give tap water for free mostly everywhere, but if you don’t specify it they might sneak in an outrageously expensive bottle of mineral water, it’s basically a way to scam tourists.

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          In Italy they don’t, Italians are weird like that. It’s also a country where nearly everyone doesn’t trust their tap water and buy water in plastic bottles…

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    I know that a short visit doesnt give great insight into a place, but the following 2 things were very striking to me when visiting:

    1 - the smoking… i found it disturbing just how many people were smoking 2 - the graffiti. I was surprised by just how much graffiti there was. Do people not take pride in their property enough to wash it off? I know Graffiti is common everywhere, but it seemed to be on a whole other level in europe… like it wasnt just on the back alleys, but on the front facades of buildings too. The front door of one of my airbnbs was covered in graffiti.

    There was 1 thing though that was totally the opposite though & made total sense… the dual function windows (where you turn the handle 1 way to open them like a door & another way to lean them in to provide ventilation. These were everywhere & i found them to be the most functional thing ever! I wish they would catch on in the usa… with that said, the first time i discovered this functionality, it was accidental. I panicked as i thought i broke the window lol.

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      The graffiti thing kills me. Washing it off is a waste, it will be vandalised again quickly. Think this way, repaint properly a wall takes time and money, to draw a cartoonishly large cock takes seconds and costs pennies. So many places chose to allow selected artists do some good stuff as it’s a better deterrent.

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      Psst there is a third way to just provide ventilation, where you put the handle in a 45 degree angle upwards.

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      The smoking absolutely kills me, as someone with asthma who has gotten very used to the fact that most things in the US are non-smoking now. It felt like there was a cloud of smoke basically everywhere I went in France and, to a lesser extent, England.

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      It’s like the abortion lottery with the most corrupted poor States working hard to enslave women’s bodies to their institutionalized meat lottery of school shootings and miserable impoverished existence all to feed the insatiable appetite of the parasitic billionaires. How can those Europeans really live without getting to experience the Grand Republican Hunger Games.

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      This is one thing I think America has done right, the ADA is so nice for people with disabilities. I want everyone to be able to experience everything so having the ADA being strong is perfectly okay with me. And I think both sides agree, everyone will get old someday!

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        Bear in mind, this is relatively recent in the US too. It’s culturally connected with both the civil rights movement of the 1950s-1960s, and to the respect that Americans (sometimes) express for war veterans.

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      This really depends on the place, but yeah some places have pretty awful mobility, like there’s a path next to my house with stairs and no ramp on it

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    It largely depends on the European nation. Even as a non-native, I don’t tend to lump them all in one judgment, just as Europeans shouldn’t lump all Americans in one judgment. Every American state is different. Reply to this comment with a European country and I’ll share the thing about it that I understand the least.

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          You don’t understand drugs? I think it’s understandable to be against drugs, but I thought you’d be able to understand them.

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          Mah, drugs makes sense to me. We have a more open policy. You can get your xtc freely tested by the gov so you dont take weird shit, shroom growing kits are legal and so are weak shrooms, truffles. Which can be bought in a certain store.

          And except for weed that is really were it stops though.

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            Might be where it stops legally but availability/quality of all drugs in NL is clearly above the neighbours.

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              Idk im pretty against war on drugs etc. And believe that people just need mental support for them not to get addicted.

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                Oh me too, decriminalise everything! Just saying NL definitely has better/more accessible drugs, also the illegal stuff.

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        As a Dutch person, a bit off topic, but some truth in television that I found funny:

        The Belgians’ relationship with fries.

        Last summer I was at a former military camp in the German hills, managed by Belgium when it was still operational, and we had a Belgian tour guide who’d served in the camp when it was active. He joked that the Belgian conscripts serving in that camp still got fries thrice a week, or they’d have a riot.

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        The lack of a feeling of equal opportunity the secessionists all have for each other. If one group has the right to leave, I’d think all do.

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        The thing I understood the least about the Czechlands is why Czechoslovakia didn’t have one identity (for a lack of a better way to put it). Like it always seemed like a compound of two places, as opposed to a singular distinct body.

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    Self defense laws are pretty weird in Europe. I am spoiled on our second amendment laws, so let my bias be noted.

    However, some guy can break into your house and if you defend yourself with a bat or knife, the laws there from what I hear (this isn’t fact, I could be mistaken) can get you in trouble with the law. I remember reading that somewhere.

    Sure it’s like that in the US too but there are many protections for those who clearly have acted in self defense.

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      I think the difference is welf defense in Europe is defending your person, not your property. If someone breaks in, you don’t have the right to hurt them. You call the police. If they were trying to attack you or you alerting them to your presence makes them come for you, then of course you can defend yourself.

      Self defence is just that. Defence of the self.

      One thing that your 2a right also means is that your criminals are likely to be armed. Ours are less likely to be and certainly much less likely for petty crime. The police in Ireland, for instanc, don’t carry guns.

      If someone breaks into my house. I’m not approaching them with hugs. I’m calling the police and grabbing a golf club or poker or similar.

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        This guy is extremely conservative and a former cop. (He doesn’t fly his politics, but you can tell.) He has testified in dozens of deadly force trials as an expert witness. Here’s what he has to say about defending property. Very eye opening.

        “In the anti-gun Spokane newspaper, internet comments indicated that many people had the clueless idea that Gerlach had shot the man – in the back – to stop the thief from stealing his car. One idiot wrote in defense of doing such, “That ‘inert property’ as you call it represents a significant part of a man’s life. Stealing it is the same as stealing a part of his life. Part of my life is far more important than all of a thief’s life.”

        Analyze that statement. The world revolves around this speaker so much that a bit of his life spent earning an expensive object is worth “all of (another man’s) life.” Never forget that, in this country, human life is seen by the courts as having a higher value than what those courts call “mere property,” even if you’re shooting the most incorrigible lifelong thief to keep him from stealing the Hope Diamond. A principle of our law is also that the evil man has the same rights as a good man. Here we have yet another case of a person dangerously confusing “how he thinks things ought to be” with “how things actually are.”

        As a rule of thumb, American law does not justify the use of deadly force to protect what the courts have called “mere property.” In the rare jurisdiction that does appear to allow this, ask yourself how the following words would resonate with a jury when uttered by plaintiff’s counsel in closing argument: “Ladies and gentlemen, the defendant has admitted that he killed the deceased over property. How much difference is there in your hearts between the man who kills another to steal that man’s property, and one who kills another to maintain possession of his own? Either way, he ended a human life for mere property!” ― Massad Ayoob, Deadly Force - Understanding Your Right To Self Defense

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          What value to society does that thief’s life bring? Most likely they are just a drain on society, so why is it wrong to stop the drain? Humans aren’t in danger of going extinct, they don’t need special protection even when they are obviously problematic. There is a net gain to basically everyone by removing a single individual like that.

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            I mean, yeah, killing every dead-weight Republican would result in a dramatically better society, but there are ethical reasons why we don’t just execute all the shit-for-brains right wingers.

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            Who will be the judge to decide which people are a drain on society to kill?

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            Based on experience living in a redneck town, probably about half of trigger happy ‘property protectors’ in the US are recreational thieves who threaten to shoot people looking for their stolen stuff.

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        I’m not American, but I still find it crazy that I’m expected to huddle in a corner with a butter knife, hoping someone doesn’t hurt me and my family, and wait for the police to never show up while someone rifles through my house. Fuck that.

        Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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          And that’s why we should be able to shoot anyone that cuts us off in traffic 👍

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              Just like your example was. There was a case in the UK like 15/20 years ago where a farmer(Tony Martin seems to ring a bell as the name) shot an intruder with a gun(legally owned). He was acquitted.

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          If I lived in a country where this was something to worry about, if worry about it.

          It’s not something I’ve ever thought about or considered in Australia.

          Sure break-ins happen but violent crimes during break-ins… it’s so rare I’ve never heard of or met anyone that knows of it happening.

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          Most European countries have civilian arrest laws, for your information.

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      Self defense is of course allowed, but only so far as to prevent harm. It also needs to be adequate to prevent the harm the attacker tried to inflict. So shooting someone who entered isn’t okay, you could’ve just held the gun at them. Which isn’t relevant cause you don’t have a gun and neither do they, most likely.

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      Same bias as yourself. I find it stunning that the British police are so proud of the pocketknives they confiscate.

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        Yeah it’s weird to see butterknives on public sites being confiscated as they’re clearly a dangerous weapon. But surprisingly knife crime is really low compared to most of the world (yes I mean America)

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          America has a violence problem. Take away all the gun violence and we’re still worse than other developed countries.

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    Why some of them seem downright gleeful about every American shortcoming or perceived shortcoming.

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    For starters, I couldn’t find any bugles. But I did spend a month or two over there and a few hotels had these weird showers where there was only a half pane of protection abridged to the wall. So the shower head pointed away from the coverage and there was no curtain! Every shower seemed to be just flooding the bathroom and not be in the tub. Either that or I’m an idiot. I will equally accept both scenarios

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      I couldn’t find any bugles

      The bastards stopped selling them in Canada too.

      I miss my crunchy finger hats.

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      Several hotels just have poorly “designed” bathrooms. Often it’s more like they tried to fit the current style somehow into the existing rooms.

      When done correctly, water will stay in a certain area without sprinkling or even flooding everything else.

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          If you’re putting water all over the floor when using a shower like this one, it’s definitely user error.

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            I’m not OP but the picture I found is far from the worst offender, I rented somewhere for a while where the top of the screen door wasn’t close to being as tall as me or the shower. It really isn’t as simple as people just being stupid.

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              Yeah I can definitely agree some are much worse! I was just referring to the specific one in this picture.

              In my old apartment in the Netherlands the shower was literally just going to the floor and the entire bathroom was a “wet room”, the drain wasn’t even under the shower but in another corner. It was weird but actually I loved it, cleaning the place was so easy, just get naked, scrub with cleaning products and then rinse the entire room down with the showerhead.