• @Blamemeta@lemmy.world
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    81 year ago

    Includes the express lanes and the frontage roads. It really shouldn’t, you aren’t supposed to just drive the entire trip on the frontage roads.

    • WalrusDragonOnABike
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      111 year ago

      Meaning it’s even wider than 26 lanes because of the space between the feeder and the highway, the extra shoulders, and barriers to the express lanes.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike
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          281 year ago

          Too much space taken up by non-places means more distance between places, increasing dependence on cars, requiring more lanes, which take up space.

            • @pontata@lemmy.world
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              101 year ago

              Reduce 27 lanes to 4 lanes with bus priority lanes and put people on a bus. Thats 27 cars with 5 people in roughly 2 buses with ~50 people.

              • @Blamemeta@lemmy.world
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                -201 year ago

                Then you’d be riding with the sort that have to ride the bus. I personaly like not being stabbed or pissed on.

                • @pontata@lemmy.world
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                  131 year ago

                  The sort of people that ride the bus and train is most of the population in the EU and a lot of other countries.

                • @MBM
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                  1 year ago

                  If you do it right, you share the bus with the sort that takes the bus because it’s more convenient than getting stuck in traffic and having to look for a parking spot

                  • @Blamemeta@lemmy.world
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                    -21 year ago

                    On every country on the planet, only the poor take public transit. Do you see rich people anywhere take buses?

            • WalrusDragonOnABike
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              61 year ago

              Biking, buses, trains, underground tunnels.

              I sometimes have biked to work in the summer not far from where that picture was taken and I live like 15 miles away. Its even more comfortable if you use an ebike. Unfortunately, I get that’s not an option for everyone (personally have been off the bike due to an injury this summer).

                • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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                  81 year ago

                  So lets cover it in only asphalt that absorbs that heat and continuously vomits it back up over the course of the entire night. All this shit is self defeating, and a major cause of the situation we find ourselves in. Car infrastructure also encourages longer distances between destinations. Roads eat up more space than alternatives, and cars themselves are large vehicles. This, along with the increasing speeds of cars encourages society to spread out. Without it our cities would be more human-centric.

                • WalrusDragonOnABike
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                  51 year ago

                  I hate the heat too. I much prefer it under 60 to over 70. But when you’re moving at a good pace and you don’t have to travel 15 miles because of miles of space wasted by cars, its not bad. Also, buses/trains should have AC. If you have a well-designed bus system, you aren’t waiting for buses much, if at all.

            • @zephyreks@lemmy.ca
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              11 year ago

              Isn’t the whole point of dense urban development so that you can avoid going outside for too long?

              Even in the US, Las Vegas showed how to connect independent complexes together without forcing people to go outside.

                • @utopianfiat@lemmy.world
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                  31 year ago

                  Car ownership was untenable for most people until the mid-1970s, and since then the government has been funding extreme pro-car ownership policies. Houstonians rode the bus.