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The Danish health minister should “get on a plane and visit” some of the thousands of women thought to be living with the consequences of being forcibly fitted with the contraceptive coil as children, Greenland’s gender equality minister has said.
In an attempt to reduce the population of the former Danish colony, at least 4,500 women and girls are believed to have undergone the medical procedure, usually without their consent or knowledge, at the hands of Danish doctors between 1966 and 1970 alone.
The total number of those affected by the procedures, thought to have continued for decades, is understood to be far higher. Victims and their lawyers say generations of Inuit women were left traumatised and suffering reproductive complications, including infertility, as a result of the Danish state’s policy.
Earlier this month, a group of 143 women sued the Danish state over the alleged violations, but they have yet to receive a response from the government, despite the Danish prime minister visiting Greenland – now an autonomous territory of Denmark – soon after.
White is when bad, and the more bad it is, the more white they are.
Great.
Nope, that’s not at all what I’m saying.
Because white people are inherently privileged and the most unaware privileged people are white, that’s the expression for acting oblivious to your own privilege and the obstacles and other hardships of people without your privilege.
Normal racists, they’re shitheads. Who the fuck gives a fuck about them. But people like you, joyfully, innocently, self-righteously denigrating people because of what race they are or partially are, because they’re ‘privileged’, and therefore who gives a shit about them? Immensely frustrating.
If you applied that kind of standard to literally any other fucking racial category and negative qualifier, you’d call it out as horrifically racist, and rightly so.
Whate is not a race. It describes people of mostly European ancestry. So be specific.
“Black is not a race. It describes people of mostly African ancestry. So be specific.”
Black was forced into being a race by the concept of whiteness. It’s evolved tok have its own culture and everything.
Nope. I have been abundantly clear from the start that it’s about the BEHAVIOR and LACK OF AWARENESS of some people, not the color of their skin.
Another ridiculous strawman. I have pointed out that I myself am privileged. You might consider it unwarranted, given your ridiculous crusade to misrepresent everything I sa, but I very much DO give a shit about myself and many others who are privileged but aren’t asses about it.
Yes, your lack of comprehension and/or bad faith sure is.
Except I keep pointing out that I’m NOT talking about all white people. White people like myself didn’t CHOOSE to be born privileged, but we DO choose whether to acknowledge that privilege and the lack of privilege of others rather than throwing a tantrum about imagined racism.
… by using the term ‘white’ in the racial sense to denigrate those people.
If you called someone who was white ‘Black’ “because they were acting like a thug”, and objected that it was BEHAVIOR you were talking about, not skin color, would that be any less fucking racist?
The answer is “No”
Why don’t we skip ahead to the end and have you call me a cracker? I’ve been through this song and dance before. It’s funny - the emphasis is always on listening to the experiences of minorities until someone who’s mixed-race comes along, then suddenly all of these supposedly liberal people become white saviors who are the arbiters what is and is not offensive.
Nope. Sometimes words have different meanings and connotations than just the literal one. This is one of those times.
See, THAT’S a racist as fuck dog whistle. Using “white” as a shorthand for “specific privileged people who are behaving badly” to criticise those specific people for their behavior isn’t.
Fuck off with that rice paper skin bullshit.
Which there is a general lack of
Nope. What the fuck are you babbling about? Sounds like you have a specific situation in mind that does not at all apply here.
“Other than the literal one” is literally what I’m addressing.
Okay. Explain to me the difference without using “One is established and the other is something I recently made up.”
Go.
Oh, great. More casual racism.
It’s literally the situation right fucking here.
I already did multiple times in multiple ways. If you didn’t understand the first ten times, you probably won’t now, either.
Rice paper is known for being extremely thin and delicate. That’s what I was referring to, which should have been clear from the context. That you thought it meant something racist is on you, not me.
Nope. The situation right fucking here is that you’re either more dense than a neutron star or arguing in bad faith to avoid admitting that you’re wrong.
Either way, I’ve wasted more than enough time trying to explain this to you so I’m going to let you continue to be wrong without me. Have the day you deserve.
Goodbye, White Savior. Thank you for teaching me the follies of my own experiences. I’ll kowtow and beat my head on the ground in praise of how liberal you’ve been to me.
It’s almost like white is literally different to all those other racial categories.
White is an exclusionary concept. If someone is half black, half asian or half hispanic, then they are typically treated by society as non-white unless they are white-passing, and even then their treatment will change as soon as their family is included in the picture. They are not considered non-black, non-asian or non-hispanic.
It’s easy to say that you would consider them half/half, but that’s just not what they experience in the world outside this comment thread, so it’s meaningless.
Holy shit, how do you not see the racism in that statement?
I dunno, it’s almost like white is literally different to all those other racial categories.
I’ll give you one chance to understand this. This is how racism is defined by actual scholars of the subject:
Racism equals power plus prejudice: A social psychological equation for racial oppression.
Anti-white racism doesn’t exist because although prejudicial attitudes do exist, and nobody is saying they don’t, the power to back up that prejudice does not, so it doesn’t rise to the level of racism.
I’m white and I am not threatened by people verbally denigrating whiteness, because the power relation isn’t there. It’s a pretty simple concept if you actually want to understand it.
EDIT: I may as well give you some easier reading that is still from an academic institution. At least you have a chance of reading that: https://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/what-is-reverse-racism-and-whats-wrong-with-the-term
Go ahead, shock me by learning something.
Are you fucking kidding me
This is not even close to true.
Any time anyone wants to fuck with you, they get to say you aren’t white or non-white enough for whatever the fuck is going on at the moment.
Thank you for informing me about the experiences of my life and many other mixed-race individuals; what would I do without someone to tell me what I REALLY experience?
White people generally hear racism from other white people. But there’s a whole fucking world of racism out there, and “Mixed race people only suffer because they’re non-white!” is fucking ignorant of the facts on the ground.
It’s telling that the only real example of so-called anti-white racism that anyone can come up with is about someone who is mixed-race experiencing discrimination from their family.
It sucks and I’m sorry that happens to you, but it’s not anti-white. It’s another form of racism that only affects non-white people. Just because it comes from non-white people doesn’t make it anti-white.
Lmao.
Not just family.
So let me get this straight:
Denigrating someone explicitly because of their white ancestry is not anti-white.
Fine, “other members of their community.”
Does it happen to and genuinely negatively affect white people? Or are they specifically targeting you as a mixed-race person?
Yes, white people are negatively affected by being denigrated too.
When you’re mixed-race, often you’re not seen as mixed-race. Often, you’re seen as whatever race is most convenient to the prejudices of the observer.