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The Danish health minister should “get on a plane and visit” some of the thousands of women thought to be living with the consequences of being forcibly fitted with the contraceptive coil as children, Greenland’s gender equality minister has said.
In an attempt to reduce the population of the former Danish colony, at least 4,500 women and girls are believed to have undergone the medical procedure, usually without their consent or knowledge, at the hands of Danish doctors between 1966 and 1970 alone.
The total number of those affected by the procedures, thought to have continued for decades, is understood to be far higher. Victims and their lawyers say generations of Inuit women were left traumatised and suffering reproductive complications, including infertility, as a result of the Danish state’s policy.
Earlier this month, a group of 143 women sued the Danish state over the alleged violations, but they have yet to receive a response from the government, despite the Danish prime minister visiting Greenland – now an autonomous territory of Denmark – soon after.
It’s almost like white is literally different to all those other racial categories.
White is an exclusionary concept. If someone is half black, half asian or half hispanic, then they are typically treated by society as non-white unless they are white-passing, and even then their treatment will change as soon as their family is included in the picture. They are not considered non-black, non-asian or non-hispanic.
It’s easy to say that you would consider them half/half, but that’s just not what they experience in the world outside this comment thread, so it’s meaningless.
Are you fucking kidding me
This is not even close to true.
Any time anyone wants to fuck with you, they get to say you aren’t white or non-white enough for whatever the fuck is going on at the moment.
Thank you for informing me about the experiences of my life and many other mixed-race individuals; what would I do without someone to tell me what I REALLY experience?
White people generally hear racism from other white people. But there’s a whole fucking world of racism out there, and “Mixed race people only suffer because they’re non-white!” is fucking ignorant of the facts on the ground.
It’s telling that the only real example of so-called anti-white racism that anyone can come up with is about someone who is mixed-race experiencing discrimination from their family.
It sucks and I’m sorry that happens to you, but it’s not anti-white. It’s another form of racism that only affects non-white people. Just because it comes from non-white people doesn’t make it anti-white.
Lmao.
Not just family.
So let me get this straight:
Denigrating someone explicitly because of their white ancestry is not anti-white.
Fine, “other members of their community.”
Does it happen to and genuinely negatively affect white people? Or are they specifically targeting you as a mixed-race person?
Yes, white people are negatively affected by being denigrated too.
When you’re mixed-race, often you’re not seen as mixed-race. Often, you’re seen as whatever race is most convenient to the prejudices of the observer.
“Denigrated”? Sure. We’re talking about the specific oppression you’re talking about, and I don’t see any examples of this kind of racism affecting white people.
And starting with “When you’re mixed-race” doesn’t really create the impression that this is a form of oppression that affects other people.
You… don’t see any examples… of white people being denigrated for their ancestry…?
Like, it’s obviously not on the level of anti-Black racism. But are you being serious right now?
… I don’t really understand where you think anti-white denigration to a mixed-race individual springs from if not anti-white sentiment. Like, by definition, here, mixed-race individuals are attacked in many cases because they’re seen either as completely white, or as ‘too white’.
Is it… only not okay to engage in anti-white racism if you’re sure the person is of Pure White Blood™? If I get called a cracker, should my response be “No, no, I’m mixed-race, I’m one of the cool ones”?
If a black person called me a cracker it wouldn’t scare me very much because I know that I have the privilege of being white, and I know that, whether I like it or not, the entire white-supremacist apparatus of the state is likely to prevent me from having to deal with any racial oppression. Those individual people could still hurt me, but so could anyone. They are still far less likely to attack me because they know how dangerous that would be for them, but a white person attacking a black person is more likely to be protected.
When you get called “cracker”, you know that you don’t have that apparatus behind you. You know that cops, the legal system, and myriad other racist things that you probably know better than me, are still going to treat you as non-white. So the “cracker” attack hurts because you’re being excluded from the community that would otherwise protect you when the apparatus of the state won’t. I’m not trying to whitesplain this to you, that’s very much what you described when you called it “rage and absolute isolation”.
That’s why the attack hurts you as a mixed-race person, but not me as a white person. I do not experience that isolation. That’s the difference.
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Holy shit, how do you not see the racism in that statement?
I dunno, it’s almost like white is literally different to all those other racial categories.
I’ll give you one chance to understand this. This is how racism is defined by actual scholars of the subject:
Racism equals power plus prejudice: A social psychological equation for racial oppression.
Anti-white racism doesn’t exist because although prejudicial attitudes do exist, and nobody is saying they don’t, the power to back up that prejudice does not, so it doesn’t rise to the level of racism.
I’m white and I am not threatened by people verbally denigrating whiteness, because the power relation isn’t there. It’s a pretty simple concept if you actually want to understand it.
EDIT: I may as well give you some easier reading that is still from an academic institution. At least you have a chance of reading that: https://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/what-is-reverse-racism-and-whats-wrong-with-the-term
Go ahead, shock me by learning something.