I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as “we’ll just handle it”) plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

      • @barsoap@lemm.ee
        7•11 months ago

        I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as FOSS, is in fact, GNU/OSS, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Open Source Software. OSS is not freedom unto itself, but rather a less free component of a fully functioning GNU/OSS system made more free by the GNU GPL.

        Many computer users run a restricted-freedom version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called FOSS, and many of its users are not aware that it is only free as far as it is GPL, developed by the GNU Project.

        There really is a GNU, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. GNU is core freedom: the program in the system that allocates copyleft in the legal system. Open source is an essential part of GNU software, but openness is useless by itself; it can only achieve freedom in the presence of copyleft. OSS is normally used in combination with the GNU software, or other GPL software, the whole system is basically GNU with OSS added, or GNU/OSS. All the so-called FOSS distributions are really distributions of GNU/OSS!