• MxM111
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    -2410 months ago

    Irrelevant comment, but I wish that psychedelics were not classified by people as drugs. There is little in common in impact to your health and to your “high” between traditional drugs like cocaine and opioids and psychedelics.

    • @papabobolious@feddit.nu
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      3610 months ago

      Why wouldn’t they be drugs? The word drug in itself is not negative. Seems to me they are very obviously drugs.

      • They mean, they shouldn’t be scheduled. Regulated, like tobacco and alcohol, but not scheduled.

        Caffeine, chocolate, heck aspirine, acetamenaphine, and countless other drugs aren’t even regulated. But it’s clear what they’re trying to say: many scheduld drugs shouldn’t be illegal to produce or use.

    • DrCatface
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      1310 months ago

      i have hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, basically means im permanantly tripping from abusing lsd in my early 20s. shit can be dangerous, punching holes in my brain aye

      • FeminalPanda
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        410 months ago

        Did not know that was a thing, did some reading on it. How distracting is it for you? Do you have “bad” or “good” micro trips?

        • DrCatface
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          310 months ago

          its very mild trippy visuals, usually when i look at the blue sky or a white wall. it has inconvenient moments like while driving but overall its no big deal. definately no bad mircrotrips. just a constant reminder not to abuse drugs

    • @Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world
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      910 months ago

      I mean, they not only change things in your body and meet the definition of a drug. But make far more of a change in your body than say Tylenol, ibuprofen, or nicotine. They impare your judgment more than weed or alcohol. Maybe less long term effects than alcohol, as long as you don’t kill someone in the process since you perception of reality is impared. It makes perfect sense that it is considered a drug. Now, whether they want to legalize it with stipulations to keep people around you safe (i.e., regulate the drug) is a different discussion.

      • @PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works
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        -510 months ago

        I think it’s person to person and dose dependent. I can’t walk after even delta 8. Unless I take enough acid to become one with the world, I’m fine. I enjoy life a little more at most.

        I don’t give a shit about regulation, but being able to buy some of these chemicals in the open would be so much safer.

    • @deft@lemmy.wtf
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      610 months ago

      There are absolutely impacts on your health though. Stuff changes your personality and sometimes, often, not for the best

      I know a lot of former friends with brain rot from our crazy days

      • MxM111
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        110 months ago

        I did not say that they are safe, especially if taken regularly, but they are quite different. And there is evidence that psychedelics do change people for the better too and are being investigated for things like depression treatment.

    • Fuck spez
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      310 months ago

      I agree, and I know you didn’t say otherwise, but musk has reportedly been doing coke as well

    • @TypicalHog@lemm.ee
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      110 months ago

      LOL WUT? A drug is everything that changes your psyche in any way in my book. Heroin, Alcohol, LSD, Weed, Paracetamol, Caffeine, Cocaine. It’s ALL drugs!

      • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
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        3010 months ago

        LSD does not form crystals in your brain or anywhere else in your body. That’s some nonsense they made up to scare kids in the 60’s.

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          My partner knows someone it happened to. The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping. I also tried to google it, and I found several reddit threads of people complaining about trips that weren’t ending like they’re supposed to.

          • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
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            2210 months ago

            Whatever happened to the person your partner knows, it was not LSD forming crystals in their brain. That’s not a thing.

            • @NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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              -1710 months ago

              I don’t know what happened to him. I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

              • DrCatface
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                1010 months ago

                its not possible. what is possible is getting hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, what i have from abusing far too much lsd in my early 20s.

              • @Takumidesh@lemmy.world
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                510 months ago

                This can’t possibly be a real person.

                This sentence is so poorly constructed and contradictory that it seems like it was written by a bottom of the barrel LLM.

              • @dezmd@lemmy.world
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                410 months ago

                The point was lost when you started repeating someone else’s made up bullshit about LSD, repeatedly, like it was factual.

                Be open to change rather than closed minded and too arrogant to just admit you were wrong.

                • @NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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                  I did say maybe it wasn’t crystals, but a guy did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that happened. And it’s not a random person, it’s my partner who told me this, not some random person. I did concede that it may not be crystals, literally said that. But he did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that is a fact. Don’t know why people would keep telling me I’m wrong about someone spending time in the hospital.

                  • @dezmd@lemmy.world
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                    No, you walked back your claim after being called out for playing the “My partner knows someone it happened to” in response to the guy that said crystals were nonsense made up to scare 60s kids.

                    Just admit you were wrong instead of doubling down on changing your claim, it doesn’t mean you lose the game, everything is made up and the points don’t matter.

              • @bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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                410 months ago

                I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

                For something that totally happens, Google is completely unaware of it. Why can’t you just accept you’re wrong? Sounds like you confused what you heard.

                LSD is one of the most potent, mood-changing chemicals. It is manufactured from lysergic acid, which is found in the ergot fungus that grows on rye and other grains. It is produced in crystal form in illegal laboratories, mainly in the United States. These crystals are converted to a liquid for distribution.

                Created as a crystal, not crystals in the brain, seems like the most likely explanation.

          • @EtherWhack@lemmy.world
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            1310 months ago

            It’s not forming crystals in your brain…

            Some people with a relatively unstable psychology and/or who don’t follow the “set and setting,” could experience a bad trip which can trigger an episode of predisposed psychosis. More often than not, this can easily be prevented by having a competent sitter guiding you and not going full out with a heroic (max-effect) dose your first time.

            Think of it like learning to drive, you wouldn’t hop into a sports car solo, and expect not to have a good chance of screwing something up

          • @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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            210 months ago

            The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping.

            More than likely they were dosed with something other than lsd, or they had a psychotic episode brought on by LSD. There are designer drugs out there that people sell as LSD, that have a much longer active time.

            LSD does hang around in the brain longer than one would initially believe based on dosage, but it’s recently been proven that the lysergic acid gets temporarily trapped in serotonin receptors.