• PugJesus
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      010 months ago

      If that were the case, we would have been a fascist state long ago.

      • Flying Squid
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        010 months ago

        There are multiple steps toward fascism and shutting down the border is absolutely one of them.

        • PugJesus
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          -110 months ago

          I don’t think we agree on what fascism is, then.

          • Flying Squid
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            010 months ago

            It hits at least two points on Eco’s 14 features of fascism-

            1. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

            2. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

            https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

            • PugJesus
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              -110 months ago

              There’s a reason that’s it’s 14 points, and not 2 points. I can name any number of things that fit individual points or small combinations of points, yet are very distinctly not fascism or a step towards fascism. Fascism is a movement, an ideology, a worldview, not a single policy.

              • Flying Squid
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                110 months ago

                A movement that Republicans embrace, so how many concessions should they be given?

                • PugJesus
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                  -110 months ago

                  As I said, any number of concessions on policy that do not increase their power (ie capitulation to fascism).

                  • Flying Squid
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                    110 months ago

                    Giving them what they want does increase their power.

                    Do you think they’re going to allow the border to be opened again and asylum seekers allowed in again one of these days because they love immigrants so much?