• DessertStorms
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    511 months ago

    I assume at the very least the removal of sea ice isn’t helping with rising sea temperatures. Sure, it’s probably not that significant, but it just seems completely unnecessary. Were these ships coming from and going back to the UAE? Because if they’re coming from Europe but then making the extra journey to the UAE then that point is invalid too.

    Bottom line - this is gross and unnecessary excess, and definitely not sustainable (in environmental terms, I’m sure financially this person is doing great for themsleves), there is no need to try and make excuses for it.

    • fmstrat
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      311 months ago

      While I’m not defending them (I don’t know enough about this to go one way or another), it seems the semi-empty ships return from Greenland to Denmark, and there are already ships going between Denmark and the UAE.

      As far as temps, my understanding is a lot of it has to do with the AMOC:

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-29226-8

      In today’s warming climate, the persistent North Atlantic cooling anomaly off the southeast coast of Greenland is thought to be caused by the accelerating input of meltwater from the Greenland Ice Sheet (GrIS) and considered an indicator of a weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC). Modelling studies suggest that increased freshwater input from Greenland has the potential to slow down AMOC in the future, thus substantially weakening heat transport to the North Atlantic and potentially driving positive ice sheet-ocean feedbacks

      This is tied to the fact that while the ice may keep things cooler, as it’s already broken off, it will put more freshwater into the saltwater more quickly, which is bad for the AMOC.

      https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/amoc.html

      If the AMOC does continue to slow down, however, it could have far-reaching climate impacts. For example, if the planet continues to warm, freshwater from melting ice at the poles would shift the rain belt in South Africa, causing droughts for millions of people. It would also cause sea level rise across the U.S. East Coast.

      I am no expert here, for context, I just found all this really interesting so did some digging.