Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution.

The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons.

  • @DevCat@lemmy.worldOP
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    968 months ago

    They are making this argument, knowing the logical consequences. They are also counting on Biden being an actual human being instead of the steaming pile their client is.

    • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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      578 months ago

      They are also praying to their god that the Appellate Court has no knowledge of the “color of office” argument. Assassinations of US citizens is most definitely beyond the scope of presidential duties, and to accept otherwise is to accept that the president is a king.

      • prole
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        58 months ago

        I agree completely… that said, not to be that guy, but didn’t Obama drone strike one or two American citizens while in power?

        • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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          178 months ago

          He killed four. Three were accidental, one was a literal terrorist helping to plan attacks on American targets. None were on American soil.

          I’m undecided if the terrorist one deserves the rights awarded by the fifth amendment, but as for the other three, it’s not like he went out of his way to target them.

          Trump’s lawyers, on the other hand, are essentially arguing that the president can do what he wants to whomever he wants, even on American soil. It’s like it’s straight from Putin’s mouth.

      • @nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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        48 months ago

        To add, would selling pardons not be covered under the emoluments clause, at the very least?

        Even though it wasn’t even remotely enforced.

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      238 months ago

      I often wonder if Trump’s counsel is undermining him on purpose, or just going with the hand they were played.

      • modifier
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        258 months ago

        They could lose their licenses for undermining their client. It’s more likely that it’s what it looks like on the tin: incompetence and evil.

        • prole
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          38 months ago

          I imagine someone might think the sacrifice worth it. To give up your career in order to ostensibly save the Republic?

          • modifier
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            38 months ago

            That is a genuinely nice thought, but there are a few reasons it’s very unlikely, and at least one reason it would be the wrong thing to do, even for the right reasons: the same set of actions that would likely result in a loss of license would also likely overturn the results that such sacrifice had sought to bring about.

            I like the current plan of Trump being afforded a vigorous defense by the only idiots stupid enough to represent him at this point.

      • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        168 months ago

        They’re trying to delay the trials until after the election hoping he will win and just pardon himself.

        And honestly, it’s not the Jan 6th Trial they’re really worried about - it’s the documents case. They have so, so much evidence that he knowingly, intentionally lied about having documents and tried hiding them from the government. There’s absolutely no deniability there.

        If he loses in November he’s toast, and they all know it.

        • @Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
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          128 months ago

          And many of the document crimes occured after he left office. So they don’t have even have these bull crap presidential immunity arguments.

          “Former presidents are also immune from any prosecution and allowed to carry out assassinations of political rivals after leaving office”

          • Trump’s lawyers, probably
      • Flying Squid
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        88 months ago

        Trump doesn’t pay his lawyers. These are the best lawyers he could get because of it. They aren’t undermining him when they’re so stupid that they don’t realize they’re never getting paid because they’re working for a guy who is famous for never paying bills.