• @1984@lemmy.today
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    28311 months ago

    The internet archive is becoming one of the most valuable sites on the web, specially to avoid paywalled corpo pages.

    • Flying Squid
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      7311 months ago

      And people are abusing the fuck out of it by uploading tons of copyrighted movies. No one seems to be policing it either. I’m very worried that its days are numbered.

      • @TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        The Internet Archive has special status that gives it protections. What might kill it is the erosion of support for public libraries and such. The advancement of media companies’ attempt to have absolute control over everything they release, by binding it into their own services.

        • Flying Squid
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          4411 months ago

          I don’t know that it has protections from people uploading Disney movies to it.

          First example on a quick search: https://archive.org/details/LionKing1.5DisneyChannel

          I really love the Internet Archive and have relied on it many times, but this is going to kill it and I’m just watching it happen in real time with nothing being done.

      • @1984@lemmy.today
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        811 months ago

        Yeah probably. It’s the ordinary playbook of allowing one site to become extreamly popular so it’s much easier to monitor users and shut down if needed.

      • @uis@lemmy.world
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        -311 months ago

        Imagine how many copyrighted books are in IRL libraries. Now imagine that IRL libraries can copy any book in any amount. Congrats, now you imagined what libraries in Europe can do.

        • Flying Squid
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          1811 months ago

          I’m not sure what that has to do with people uploading copyrighted movies to the Internet Archive. You can’t just upload Disney movies to YouTube and expect Disney to not give a shit. They still have legal recourse.

          I hate copyright law, but it still exists. I don’t want the Internet Archive to shut down and I have harvested a lot from the public domain video they archive. But those videos are at risk because people are uploading copyrighted stuff, and eventually a big enough lawsuit is going to take the site down unless they do something about it.

          Also, the video storage end of the site is becoming more and more unusable because of it. It used to be easy to search through videos and find the legitimately public domain ones which you could then use in your own projects. Now if I’m not 100% sure, I have to do a bunch of research… and I know for a fact from talking to some people that they think that if they download video from the Internet Archive, it isn’t copyrighted. And if they then use it in one of their projects, they are at legal risk.

          And if the Internet Archive isn’t going to be the global digital repository for public domain video, then it’s going to be YouTube. Do we really want public domain video to be monetized?

          This is, to me, pretty damn serious.

        • @antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          411 months ago

          Uhh what? I’m pretty sure libraries in Europe can’t do that. Do you mean they can photocopy any book they own…?

          • @uis@lemmy.world
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            211 months ago

            Not sure how exactly it worked, but some time ago in Russia it was completely legal for library to copy book, but it seems now laws became more strict. Probably some member of United Russia got a shiny new yacht.

            • @Aux@lemmy.world
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              311 months ago

              That might be legal in Russia, but not in EU or elsewhere in Western Europe. My partner works in a library in UK and copyright stuff is a big problem.

              • @uis@lemmy.world
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                011 months ago

                Out of all shit gosduma makes, this is the best thing they thought about.

                Altenatively if you are pro strong copyright: make copyright inallianable and belonging ONLY to people who directly created stuff.

    • @DudeDudenson
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      2311 months ago

      What will we do when the internet archive goes down

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      11 months ago

      Anyone who archives data so it wouldn’t be lost is MVP 8bmzqc

      • @zerofk@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        I download the internet archive once every month and copy it to stone tablets. Even if the world’s electricity reserve runs out, we’ll still have those.

        In unrelated news, I’m looking for people with access to big stone quarries.