• @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    -92
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    It’s entirely voluntarily (hence bonus), and has huge benefits for your self. I fail to see what the problem is.

    My company does the same thing, and so do many others.

    • Neato
      link
      fedilink
      8411 months ago

      Your company is abusing it’s employees. Imagine if it was something other than exercise how abusive it would be.

      With how a lot of jobs have a lot of their pay based on nearly mandatory bonuses, this is basing pay on controlling you outside of work.

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -4011 months ago

        Your company is abusing it’s employees. Imagine if it was something other than exercise how abusive it would be.

        Except it’s not, because it’s exclusively about health. It’s a discount health insurance companies offer to companies, and the company uses that money to encourage employees to be healthier.

        • @beetus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          16
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Your insurance benefit offered after health milestones isn’t 30-130% of your salary though

          Running 30km (18.6 miles) in a month earns a bonus equivalent to 30% of their monthly salary. Moving up to 40km (24.8 miles) pushes that to 40%. Hitting 50km (31 miles) earns 100%, and the top tier of 100km (62 miles) is 130%

          • I Cast Fist
            link
            fedilink
            English
            511 months ago

            100km for 130%, when 50km will already get you 100%? Not worth it in the least.

            Depending on how they track it, exploiting that shouldn’t be too hard.

        • セリャスト
          link
          fedilink
          English
          411 months ago

          I didnt see what was the appeal for companies until I realized they were US based companies and had to provide health insurance for their employees

        • @mx_smith@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -1411 months ago

          Next up they will be forcing you to a plant based diet or maybe straight to veganism. Slippery slope towards forced sterilization or some other Radical procedure that saves them money but is not necessary.

    • Quokka
      link
      fedilink
      English
      5911 months ago

      As reported by Guangzhou Daily, Lin Zhiyong, the chairman of a company that makes paper for various devices, told his workers that their year-end bonuses had been canceled. Instead, the money will be distributed across each coming month, and how much employees receive will depend on how far they run.

      He literally canceled their bonuses and said “lol go run for it dipshit”

      Imagine getting your bonus cancelled and told to go do more work to get it back.

      Fuck this guy and fuck Chinese labour standards.

      • @Sarmyth@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -1111 months ago

        You don’t have to run. My lazy ass clears 6k steps each day just living life. That’s counts as walking, which is worth 1/3rd steps but still makes it a mile a day. I would be getting 100% bonus with literally no life change. Sign me up! Meanwhile, I never bonused working retail because people stealing carts crushed my EBITA every quarter.

        • Quokka
          link
          fedilink
          English
          3
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Are you a fucking idiot?

          Go work in a fucking Chinese paper factory all day for not enough money to live, and then go have part of your salary taken away and be told to do more work.

          Maybe after having a second of fucking realisation you won’t come back and spout such dumbarse nonsense.

          • @Sarmyth@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            -10
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            You obviously are a fucking idiot because a bonus isn’t your salary shithead. Also this is the most trivial nonsense I’ve ever heard of to bonus 100%. I live in America where I’ve never once gotten 100% of my goddammit bonus fuckface. Being told that you get all of it for wearing a pedometer is literal childs play to me. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit baby agression and jerk off or something instead.

            I fucking wish I worked in a Chinese paper factory and got bonuses! Like seriously, get a goddammit clue. If that sounds like hard work to you, then you’ve literally never seen one, and you must have baby soft keyboard hands.

            • Quokka
              link
              fedilink
              English
              411 months ago

              You’re an absolute moron.

              I too wish you get to work in a Chinese factory.

              • @Sarmyth@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                -8
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                I’m surprised you can even spell moron. I bet the reason you think it’s so bad is because you’re a piece of shit racist. Get over yourself.

                Looks much nicer than my workplace. I also work with Chinese manufacturers and know how many holidays they get off too, so unlike you, I’m not actually ignorant to your average Chinese persons working environment and make believe its some hellscape. Our middle class is collapsing while theirs has grown substantially. Their government does some crazy shit but we’re no exception.

                • @Matriks404@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  111 months ago

                  @Quokkla

                  Are you a fucking idiot?

                  @Sarmyth

                  You obviously are a fucking idiot

                  @Quokka

                  You’re an absolute moron.

                  @Sarmyth

                  you’re a piece of shit racist.

                  Lemmy moment.

                  No, seriously calm down poeple, lol. This is not reddit.

                • Quokka
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  111 months ago

                  Haha oh geez imagine thinking it’s racist to have a negative view of another countries labour conditions.

                  I’m probably racist to Americans because I think yours are shit too right?

                  You really do deserve to work in that fact, go apply for it!

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        011 months ago

        Not all of these programs explicitly require running with no alternatives for people who can’t run.

        Most that I’ve seen are usually just based on “exercise minutes” depending on how your device tracks those. The Apple watch is really lenient and I get 50% of my daily goal just walking to work.

          • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            5
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            I’m sure they offer alternatives. Not everything is so black and white.

            Our companies in particular is just 30 exercise minutes so you can do whatever you want to get your heart rate up.

            • Blooper
              link
              fedilink
              English
              811 months ago

              Sex. I want my company to pay me to sex. I feel like I could totally get behind that. Sexually.

            • @Brekky@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              1
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              I hope ‘going to therapy to treat your depression because you can’t force yourself to go out and exercise’ is offered as an alternative too.

          • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            -511 months ago

            If the company is operating in good faith, they will be making “reasonable accommodations” for disabled workers.

            The top tier of this program requires about 30 minutes of running per day. I’m sure we can find a similarly intensive workout to meet the needs and capabilities of disabled workers, numbnuts.

            • I Cast Fist
              link
              fedilink
              English
              711 months ago

              If the company is operating in good faith,

              If they’re going on with this idea, they’re definitely not operating in good faith.

              • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                English
                -2
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                Nothing in the article even suggests they are operating in bad faith.

                The company is basically asking them to voluntarily extend their work day by 15 to 30 minutes, but instead of offering time-and-a-half they would be entitled to as “overtime”, they will double, or more than double their wages.

                That roughly 30 minute period of activity is worth about 16 times their hourly pay.

                • I Cast Fist
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  311 months ago

                  The year end bonus was canceled in order to enforce this “healthy” change during the coming months. The workers lost something they were supposed to get because some asshole wanted them to be “healthier”. There’s a considerable chance that the company will distribute less money to the workers that way.

                  It’s not about keeping workers healthy, it’s about saving money, that’s bad faith.

    • @aulin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1411 months ago

      Bonuses should not be expected, or they’re not bonuses. I get that. But making them available only to those able to do some physical test is discrimination.

    • I Cast Fist
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -111 months ago

      Meanwhile, assholes at the top get bonuses if the company is profitable. Seeing a bit of a discrepancy here