Animals died to get eggs and cheese. Also the animals that are giving milk and eggs will die when they reach a certain age. Also I wouldn’t consider being in a cage 24/7, never seeing the sun, a “life” exactly.
That’s like saying you don’t mind buying blood diamonds because diamonds are just a rock. Of course they contributed to death, but in essence they are just a shiny rock.
You are thinking too hard. I never alluded to eating eggs or cheese being ethical or not. Cheese is complicated because of the bacteria that makes it, not because it came from an animal.
Yes exactly, you are bringing ethics into it. I wasn’t.
It’s a stupid comment about how eating pretty much everything but eggs and maybe cheese kills whatever you are eating. It isn’t some high level philisophical critique on the ethics of what we consume.
Oh I guess my comment does look like a vegetarian shopping list. My point was that even though many vegetables ‘die’ for us, there are things you can harvest without killing the plant/animal. Not as a moral stance, I doubt anyone cares more about carrots dying than cows and chickens suffering.
Except for like, fruits, seeds, eggs, dairy etc.
Only eggs haven’t died for us. Fruits and seeds definitely died for us too. Cheese is complicated.
Animals died to get eggs and cheese. Also the animals that are giving milk and eggs will die when they reach a certain age. Also I wouldn’t consider being in a cage 24/7, never seeing the sun, a “life” exactly.
Sure but the eggs haven’t died for us. They aren’t fertilised either so have no chance of becoming a chicken
That’s like saying you don’t mind buying blood diamonds because diamonds are just a rock. Of course they contributed to death, but in essence they are just a shiny rock.
No, it’s like me saying diamonds are minerals.
You are thinking too hard. I never alluded to eating eggs or cheese being ethical or not. Cheese is complicated because of the bacteria that makes it, not because it came from an animal.
Ah I see, things dying for us is completely free of ethics. Silly me thinking too hard.
Yes exactly, you are bringing ethics into it. I wasn’t.
It’s a stupid comment about how eating pretty much everything but eggs and maybe cheese kills whatever you are eating. It isn’t some high level philisophical critique on the ethics of what we consume.
You are making this weird.
You may want to watch this video by Earthling Ed
Oh I guess my comment does look like a vegetarian shopping list. My point was that even though many vegetables ‘die’ for us, there are things you can harvest without killing the plant/animal. Not as a moral stance, I doubt anyone cares more about carrots dying than cows and chickens suffering.
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