• @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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          38 months ago

          Yes, but I was alluding that, if it were there goal, then a ground force could pick terrorist targets without killing excess civilians.

          • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            That’s not how colonialist warfare - oops, sorry, I meant to say “counter-terrorism” - works. You don’t wage “counter-terrorism” against the people actively resisting the colonialist power - that’s ineffective - instead, you wage war against the people the resistance originates from and exists within. That’s the part of “people’s war” that gets left unsaid - it works both ways. That is the reason why so much “counter-terrorism” looks no different than genocide - genocide is the only true effective means of dealing with stubborn and organised anti-colonial resistance.

            edit: I have to add - this is the reason why talk of “civilians” is mere propaganda and little else - the nature of colonialist warfare fundamentally rejects concepts such as “civilian” and “combatant.” You are either a member of the “other” or you are not - it’s the reason why white supremacism is such a usefult ideology for colonizers.

            • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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              18 months ago

              Civillians exist and the majority in Gaza do not support Hamas as of their most recent election, probably even less now. You know that unless you actually adhere to the self identifying white supremacist philosophy you just spouted, so I don’t see any point in your comment.

              • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                -18 months ago

                Civillians exist

                As I have already explained to you… white supremacist settler-colonialist states do not distinguish between civilians and combatants - the enemy is a racialized other who must either be enslaved, repressed and/or exterminated. That is it. End of story - white supremacism doesn’t work any other way and never has.

                If you live in the US, you should have no trouble understanding this - unless your history teachers fell down on the job or had a good reason to misinform you.

                majority in Gaza do not support Hamas

                Most people in Vietnam did not support Ho Chi Minh - but they sure as hell knew who it was that was handing out AKs when colonizers started indiscriminately napalming their villages, didn’t they?

                • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                  18 months ago

                  As I have already explained to you… white supremacist settler-colonialist states do not distinguish between civilians and combatants - the enemy is a racialized other who must either be enslaved, repressed and/or exterminated. That is it. End of story - white supremacism doesn’t work any other way and never has.

                  As I have already explained to you, I don’t give a fuck what white supremacist settler-colonialist states think about the existence of civilians, nobody asked, and neither should you.

                  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                    08 months ago

                    I don’t give a fuck what white supremacist settler-colonialist states think

                    Maybe you should tell your government that, then.

      • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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        -148 months ago

        Wait, so targeting terrorist infrastructure is indiscriminate? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

        • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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          48 months ago

          Yep when everything you hit is terrorist infrastructure. It’s the old take a shot and say exactly where I was aiming.

        • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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          48 months ago

          When terrorist infrastructure is homes, roads, utilities, and hospitals where attacking kills thousands of children and innocent civilians, then yes. That is the exact definition of indiscriminate: it kills everyone without consideration.

            • @Sparlock@lemmy.world
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              38 months ago

              DING, DING, DING ! That is the correct answer.

              Though it seems hard for people when it is reframed as…

              I heard there were IDF soldiers Hamas guerrillas at the music festival refugee camp. Does that make it ok now?

              Suddenly they are tripping over themselves to justify why they answer Yes.