• @themachine@lemmy.world
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    319 months ago

    Care to cite your sources in that claim? I’m know they are far from anything that could be considered “good” but “worse than cigs” is news to me.

    • @Stovetop@lemmy.world
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      89 months ago

      I am not the previous poster, but the argument that I’ve heard on that front is that smoking was already trending rapidly downwards in use and would have made itself obsolete within a couple generations.

      Vaping on the other hand established itself as a “safer” alternative to smoking and became trendy with more younger people who wouldn’t have smoked in the first place.

      • @WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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        299 months ago

        Yeah, that’s in no way worse than inhaling smoke and dozens of proven carcinogens…

        Vaping is worse than nothing, but the notion that it’s worse than smoking is completely deranged.

          • @Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
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            129 months ago

            They are not to be believed. I’m shocked you fell for a Truth campaign, if that’s what you’re insinuating.

            No one claims vaping is good for you, but there is very little evidence of the damage they may cause up until this point, and basically anything is better than smoking a cigarette.

            There are a lot of issues we could discuss, such as how addictive they are, or how they’re often owned by big tobacco rebranding themselves in deceitful ways, but the grandiose claims are overwhelmingly fabricated.

              • @Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
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                69 months ago

                See the long reply to your comment. I’ve seen you around whenever I log on, and you’re often loud and wrong. I’ve discovered it’s a safe bet to go against most of what you say.

              • bitwolf
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                49 months ago

                Whether metals are transferred from the coil to the aerosol is unknown.

                In this study, they heated the coil to a very high temp that is not indicative of actual e cig usages.

                Additionally, we use different metals for coils now. Instead deferring to stainless steel or ceramic heating elements which are not affected in the same way as this study indicates.

              • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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                09 months ago

                It’s still not as bad as smoking but it is dangerous, especially with off brand or damaged vapes. If you don’t regularly clean and inspect your vape you can end up getting terrible infections or some fairly toxic chemicals.

                Vaping has also caused a spike in STDs which is fun.

      • @thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com
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        19 months ago

        Vaping is a safer alternative. 95% safer.

        Nicotine is about as dangerous and addictive as caffeine (actually a bit less so, but that’s splitting hairs). You should really be more concerned about kids being able to buy energy drinks than vapes.

        Source: Me. I’ve been following the research on this for nearly 15 years.

        • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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          39 months ago

          Nicotine is more addictive than caffeine in the quantities you regularly consume it and vaping has more serious side effects than drinking a cup of coffee. You’re completely correct about vaping being safer than smoking though - for life long smokers the vape can be quite impactful on their long term health… but it’s still much healthier to do neither.