• Jeremy [Iowa]
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    -11 year ago

    Will they? How likely is a parent to actually have to have that discussion?

      • Jeremy [Iowa]
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        01 year ago

        Ah, you have nothing but hyperbole. Fair enough, this is about what I’d expected.

          • Jeremy [Iowa]
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            11 year ago

            Which is largely irrelevant; try comparing our rates of child death by violence overall to other countries. I think you’ll be surprised at how the US stacks up.

            • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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              It’s not irrelevant to what I was saying in the first place, that it’s more likely than anywhere else in the world that you would need to explain to parents why their child got killed by a gun yet nothing is done to remove guns from people’s hands.

              • Jeremy [Iowa]
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                -11 year ago

                So you add hyperbole to hyperbole? Interesting. I hadn’t realized I was talking with such a deeply unserious troll. Fair enough, I expected nothing less.

        • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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          Source on the 15? Because your article dates from 2018.

          What’s the leading cause of child mortality in the USA?

          What’s the leading cause of child mortality in the Canada?

          I’m using both these countries because they’re very close, geographically and culturally…

          Hint: One starts with a G and it’s not the same as the other!

          Edit: By the way, I didn’t bring up school shootings, just child death, funny you tried to switch it to school shootings only…

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              https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

              Nope, firearms… and have you seen that downward trend on car death as they’re getting safer and safer? Yeah, things don’t look great for the future of your argument bud!

              And…

              The database *does not include school shootings in which fewer than four people were killed*, which have become far more common in recent years.

              Monday's shooting at a private Christian grade school in Nashville marked the 15th time since 1999 that gun violence has left *four or more* dead in a school in the United States.

              2 dead and 10 more hurt? Not a mass shooting based on their definition.

              Yeah… so you’re wrong.

              Oh and, that’s just schools, funny that you assume that children deaths related to guns only happen in schools.

              • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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                Cars are still the number one killer, the numbers they used for 2020 were flawed because of how they counted deaths of children via cars (1-15) and firearms 1-19.

                On top of that, 2 dead and 10 killed on school grounds afterhours via gang violence is not a school shooting. A bus having its window broken with a pellet gun is not a school shooting…hell even NPR calls out the school shooting stats here:

                https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

                Keep being anti-2a it’s not being repealed and more of us on the left than ever are armed and it will continue to grow. You can keep living in your white privileged suburban picket fence bubble, but the rest of us have to deal with our own safety and no amount of gun control is going to magically stop violence towards us.

                Hell most of the anti-2a groups are also the ones who want to defund and dearm the police (I’m also for this, but I’m not delusional thinking gun control will make me or others safer).

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                  “More guns, more safe”

                  Meanwhile we’re looking at you guys from up here in Canada and going “You realize that you’re all just lying to yourselves and making the problem worse, right? 🤔”

                  Heck, you have to keep going back to focusing on school shootings to try to have a point, that’s ridiculous.

                  https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

                  Table one, where are the violent deaths from things other than firearms that brings other countries numbers to a similar level as the USA? Where are they? No fucking where.

                  • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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                    Fucking hell I’m dealing with a Canadian idiot. Why do you care what happens here? You neutered your gun owners, deal with your problems you have there. You have plenty of violent gangs fucking up your cities.