• @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

    Nope, firearms… and have you seen that downward trend on car death as they’re getting safer and safer? Yeah, things don’t look great for the future of your argument bud!

    And…

    The database *does not include school shootings in which fewer than four people were killed*, which have become far more common in recent years.

    Monday's shooting at a private Christian grade school in Nashville marked the 15th time since 1999 that gun violence has left *four or more* dead in a school in the United States.

    2 dead and 10 more hurt? Not a mass shooting based on their definition.

    Yeah… so you’re wrong.

    Oh and, that’s just schools, funny that you assume that children deaths related to guns only happen in schools.

    • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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      -11 year ago

      Cars are still the number one killer, the numbers they used for 2020 were flawed because of how they counted deaths of children via cars (1-15) and firearms 1-19.

      On top of that, 2 dead and 10 killed on school grounds afterhours via gang violence is not a school shooting. A bus having its window broken with a pellet gun is not a school shooting…hell even NPR calls out the school shooting stats here:

      https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

      Keep being anti-2a it’s not being repealed and more of us on the left than ever are armed and it will continue to grow. You can keep living in your white privileged suburban picket fence bubble, but the rest of us have to deal with our own safety and no amount of gun control is going to magically stop violence towards us.

      Hell most of the anti-2a groups are also the ones who want to defund and dearm the police (I’m also for this, but I’m not delusional thinking gun control will make me or others safer).

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        “More guns, more safe”

        Meanwhile we’re looking at you guys from up here in Canada and going “You realize that you’re all just lying to yourselves and making the problem worse, right? 🤔”

        Heck, you have to keep going back to focusing on school shootings to try to have a point, that’s ridiculous.

        https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

        Table one, where are the violent deaths from things other than firearms that brings other countries numbers to a similar level as the USA? Where are they? No fucking where.

        • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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          -11 year ago

          Fucking hell I’m dealing with a Canadian idiot. Why do you care what happens here? You neutered your gun owners, deal with your problems you have there. You have plenty of violent gangs fucking up your cities.

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            Violent gangs that get their guns from where exactly? Oh, that’s right, from the idiots in the States that need to compensate for something and own ten rifles that they don’t keep safe and that get stolen and make their way to our country.

            So yeah, you can fuck right off with your hard on for objects purpose built to kill.