Fediseer
fediseer.lemmings.world

I’ve created a Fediseer frontend that’s easy to use!

URL: https://fediseer.lemmings.world Source: https://github.com/RikudouSage/FediseerGUI

If you don’t know what Fediseer is:

The Fediseer is a service for the Fediverse which attempts to provide a crowd-sourced human-curated spam/ham classification of Fediverse instances as well as provide a public space to specify approval/disapproval of other instances.

In simple terms, using the Fediseer, we attempt to figure out whether an instance is spam or not, through a human-driven system called the “chain of trust”.

  • SpziEnglish
    1•1 year ago

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

    I’m new to this idea and tool, so I have some questions:

    How do you deal with conflicting bubbles or chains of trust? Say the trolls all endorse each other and claim you’re the troll, while you and your friends do the opposite. Who wins?

    How to get started with sharing my opinion on who to trust?

    • Rikudou_SageOPAEnglish
      2•1 year ago

      There are two answers to that, one general and one for the specific problem you mentioned.

      How do you deal with conflicting bubbles or chains of trust?

      You choose who you trust and then go from there. If you trust them, you should trust anyone they trust, thus forming the chain.

      Say the trolls all endorse each other and claim you’re the troll, while you and your friends do the opposite. Who wins?

      To even have a say in whether someone is censured or not you first need to be guaranteed by someone. My instance for example is guaranteed by fediseer.com (which is the root node to get the chain started, it won’t be used in the future because instances will guarantee for other instances). And for example kbin.social is guaranteed by me.

      Here’s one slightly longer chain:

      fediseer.com -> lemmy.dbzer0.com -> discuss.online -> utter.online.

      Each node in that guarantee chain has a say in who they trust and who they don’t. So, in theory, if utter.online starts spamming, discuss.online should withdraw their guarantee. If they don’t lemmy.dbzer0.com should withdraw their guarantee for discuss.online which in turn will invalidate its guarantee for utter.online.

      How to get started with sharing my opinion on who to trust?

      If you are an instance admin, find someone who will guarantee for you

      Edit: Here’s a detail page for the instance you’re on.

      • SpziEnglish
        1•1 year ago

        Awesome, thank you for the detailed explanation! It’s so clear now.

        When I looked around, I couldn’t find a similar explanation in the links you provided in the original post. But I guess it might be helpful for other people, too. So if you like, why not add a “how does this work?”-section? You can use roughly what you just wrote.

        With a friendly smirk, I endorse fediseer.com :]

        • Rikudou_SageOPAEnglish
          2•1 year ago

          Is this clear? I tried to make it as clear as possible, though I’m not a native English speaker.