• NewDark
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    8 days ago

    Can you answer two questions for me.

    What is the purpose of having a democracy?

    Is it ever morally correct to affirmatively vote for a genocide?

    • SadSadSatellite @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 days ago
      1. We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians. We’ve had two sides to choose from, kind of, which are: ‘hardly does anything’ and ‘actively makes everything worse for everyone immediately’.

      2. Genocide wasn’t on the ballot. Anyone who thought trump would stop it was wrong, as anyone who thought about it for a second had been telling them.

      So now that those are out of the way, how does that idealistic high horse help every person whose life is now actively worse now?

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        7 days ago
        1. You’re then caputulating to the rules in an unjust society. If we don’t have a democracy in which we can extract concessions and enact the will of the people, why are you so bent about this “democratic” vote.

        2. Almost correct. Third parties exist, and not voting exists. The democrats failed to have a platform that made people want to vote for them. You hold the position that the democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed. Blaming voters doesn’t work.

        Things aren’t better now. They’ve been steadily getting worse under every administration. Electoralist liberal brain rot is keeping your mind in this neat little box where you can’t imagine a different world outside of dogshit and worse dogshit.

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            7 days ago

            Everyone? Third party wins in a landslide. The plurality of eligible voters don’t vote. If you mean magically all democrats and a third party got the votes last time, the same outcome as this election.

            People chose the couch, they didn’t choose Trump. Both parties lost voters since last election, democrats just lost many more.

            But you’re still in this electoralist mindset in a system that is inherently undemocratic. You’re missing the forest for the trees.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusOP
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        7 days ago

        We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians.

        so why are you trying to get people to engage in a sham, then? are you working with the fascists to try and dampen direct action?

        • SadSadSatellite @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          7 days ago

          Direct action does not mean “don’t also vote to make it harder for the fascists.” Only two options were valid for the majority of election positions. We could have bought more time to fill local positions with third parties and progressives, but instead we’re building concentration camps and cutting any progress we’ve made in the last 20 years.