• PlainSimpleGarak
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    2 days ago

    “if you oppose my views, you’re a bigot, and I don’t debate bigots, hence I won’t debate you. I win”

    See, I can put words in quotation marks too. Look how cool we look.

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      1 day ago

      Opposing the views that trans people exist and that their rights matter does, indeed, make you a bigot.

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        1 day ago

        Of course they exist. You can literally see them. And they have the same rights as I do, assuming they are a legal citizen of the USA.

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          And they have the same rights as I do, assuming they are a legal citizen of the USA.

          No. No they don’t. Trump has ensured that.

          This is from 19 days ago and he has done a lot more since.

          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/6-ways-trumps-executive-orders-are-targeting-transgender-people

          In just one example- A cisgender person will have no trouble getting things like testosterone or estrogen if their doctor says they need it. Trans people are losing that right.

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            I doubt there is a federal, state, or local law, or in the constitution that states you have a right to getting testosterone or estrogen.

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                This is not debatable. In the US, the constitution does not guarantee a right to healthcare. No federal or state laws guarantee a right to healthcare. Even though the federal government offer several healthcare related program (medicare, medicad, etc…) but they are not required under any federal law to do so.

                To answer your question, yes, I do believe legal citizens should have a right to healthcare. A person should not go bankrupt because they contracted cancer.

                So, when you make a statement saying T people are being denied a right to healthcare, you’re spreading misinformation. They have the same rights as myself and every other legal citizen.

                I would be equally outraged if the government decided a specific racial group, for example, was told they don’t have the right to an attorney when being prosecuted. Because that would be being denied an actual right that everyone else enjoys.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

      The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. This paradox was articulated by philosopher Karl Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945),[1] where he argued that a truly tolerant society must retain the right to deny tolerance to those who promote intolerance. Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.

      This paradox raises complex issues about the limits of freedom, especially concerning free speech and the protection of liberal democratic values. It has implications for contemporary debates on managing hate speech, political extremism, and social policies aimed at fostering inclusivity without compromising the integrity of democratic tolerance.

      Above room temperature IQ shit, please use the brain I assume you’re equipped with, but my faith in that is dwindling.

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        Oh, wow, a concept someone conceived.

        I don’t see an opposing view as intolerance, thus your link is moot.

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          When the original viewpoint is that trans people exist and are valuable, opposition to that viewpoint is most certainly intolerant.