• @Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    Most people don’t hate CEOs.

    Uhhh, that actually might not be true.

    If you were to do a poll in the US I think you can crack 51%, especially if you phrase it by mentioning that they have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit regardless of morality.

    Edit: just had a thought. Given how much more money they make than the average worker, and that the average worker puts their health at risk by sitting at a desk so much, this might actually make sense in terms of risk/reward structure.

    If the ultra wealthy make more than 1000 than me, shouldn’t they take 1000 times more risk of dying (I’m not supporting violence).

    • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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      411 hours ago

      especially if you phrase it by mentioning that they have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit regardless of morality.

      Also regardless of mortality.

    • @john89@lemmy.ca
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      2221 hours ago

      I don’t hate somebody just because they’re a CEO.

      I hate all rich people though that aren’t using their wealth to improve the lives of others as much as possible.

      • @slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world
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        I mean, the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could end world hunger with a snap of their bony fingers, and they’re not doing it, despite the fact that they would still be wealthy beyond comprehension if they did.

        We’re asking them to do the bare minimum and utilize their wealth in a responsible manner, and they’re not even doing that much.

        • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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          511 hours ago

          the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could end world hunger with a snap of their bony fingers, and they’re not doing it, despite the fact that they would still be wealthy beyond comprehension if they did.

          I’m reminded of this line Citizen Kane:

          You’re right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I’ll have to close this place in… sixty years”.

        • ObjectivityIncarnate
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          I mean, the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could end world hunger with a snap of their bony fingers

          Bullshit.

          World hunger, which has in fact decreased drastically over the past century, is not a problem that money can solve, because cost is not the reason it persists where it does.

          One major issue: food donations to poor areas tend to be hoarded and distributed unequally by the most powerful people in those poor areas.

          So we’re one sentence in, and already we need to fundamentally understand local political dynamics and either use force to ensure equal distribution, or to change local leadership structures. This is already out of control.

          You can’t just throw money at the problem and expect it to just be solved. There are real underlying societal and infrastructure issues in a lot of impoverished countries that need to be solved in order for hunger to be solved. You could ship a billion tons of food to a single starving region and there would still be millions of starving people.

          Additionally, simply handing out food would kill the domestic food industry (because who would buy food when billionaires are giving it away for free) and would make the country even more problematic.

          You should know what you’re taking about when you make ridiculous claims like this.

          • You can’t just throw money at the problem and expect it to just be solved. There are real underlying societal and infrastructure issues in a lot of impoverished countries that need to be solved in order for hunger to be solved. You could ship a billion tons of food to a single starving region and there would still be millions of starving people.

            That’s a strawman. No-one said “they should just, like, buy enough food to feed the hungry”.

            When people say it would cost x to solve world hunger, they are talking about those “underlying societal and infrastructure issues”.

            So, yes. Everything can be solved with money. You can hire people to “fundamentally understand local political dynamics”, invest in research, pay to fund the programs that will enable impoverished regions to develop the means to build the infrastructure to feed themselves.

            Additionally, simply handing out food would kill the domestic food industry (because who would buy food when billionaires are giving it away for free) and would make the country even more problematic.

            Just because this is the idea you have in mind for how to solve hunger, and it is, as you rightly stated, a fucking stupid idea, doesn’t make it the only idea.

      • @redwattlebird
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        Most, if not all, CEOs are rich though and I’m sure most people follow your sentiments too. It’s just that CEOs are currently the flavour of the month.

    • peopleproblems
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      I would think that the title of CEO might not be appropriate to every organization either. I know a rather big org where the CEO is basically someone who begs for investors, and the CAO does what a CEO usually does. There are orgs where that’s the CFO, or the COO. Regardless of the title, it’s all executives we’re angry about because of the incredible income disparities versus actual responsibilities.

      The executives I’ve met are essentially hype men or thumbs up thumbs down types. All of them were finance types or management types. To me, if your only qualification is many years of managing with barely any experience in the actual product/service your org provides, then that’s a problem.

      Hospitals run by management types? Engineering services run by accountants? It’s all middlemen extracting piece of the pie from the people actually doing the work.

      As a society we need to purge the system of middlemen period. The internet made middlemen obsolete, yet they are still exploiting labor in ridiculous ways.