• @Grimy@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Yes, but academically and more broadly in society, homeless means unhoused (by broadly in society, I mean in the common language like how third world is a synonyms for developing country even though academically it means something else.)

    Important to note that he said in the US, not his hometown dialect or something. It’s a blanket statement that is completely wrong no matter how you look at it.

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      111 hours ago

      @Grimy Canadian English is a dialect. So is US English. And both have sub-dialects, as well as registers. These are real differences that really do affect how specific words are used and understood.

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        In US English, unhoused means homeless. I’m saying that it is used and understood as a synonym (you can’t argue this point either way without rhetoric) and that it is also officially considered a synonym (you can argue this point by opening a thesaurus).

        I understand your point, it’s just wrong in both cases. Instead of explaining it, back it up or am I to believe you just because you can quote the wiki on rhetoric? I guess rhetoric only applies to the other person.

        • WesDym
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          15 hours ago

          @Grimy Get over yourself.

          And goodbye. There’s plenty of hopelessly tiresome people online already, and no one needs more.

          And grow the fuck up already.

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            There’s plenty of hopelessly tiresome people online already.

            Ya, I’m guessing everyone that disagrees with you. You think quoting the rhetoric wiki when it has no place isn’t tiresome? Review your own behavior instead of acting offended when you get rebuked.

            You literally commented three times under me before I had a chance to respond, told me to “grow the fuck up” and I’m the bad guy here? Is “grow the fuck up” and telling me “get over yourself” a form of rhetoric in your opinion?

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      -111 hours ago

      @Grimy You are relying on a rhetorical device called an essentialism: an assertion of fact without evidence, a claim asserted as established fact without supporting argument or proof. Put another way:

      Things aren’t true just because you say they are, no matter how sure you are.

      Essentialism isn’t merely poor forensics. It’s very literally gotten millions of people killed.

      We always want to make every effort to use good forensics in arguments.

      I don’t believe you actually KNOW the facts.