Except Democrats did try to pass $15 after the last election. It didn’t work and a bunch of the worst ones defected, but it wasn’t just quietly forgotten.
Sanders led the group that called for the vote. As centrists are so delighted to point out when it’s convenient to them, Sanders is not a Democrat.
If it were up to Democrats, they would have thrown up their hands and gleefully announced that there was nothing they could do. Sanders is the reason you can pretend that Democrats don’t hate workers.
Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”. They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure. They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously. He caucuses with them, wins the Democratic primary in his state, competes to lead the party, and supports Democratic nominees even when they’re from the other end of the party. The centrists are disingenuous idiots but so are the leftists who do the exact same thing. Sanders likes the aesthetic of “independent”, good for him, he’s still on team (D) and not remotely the only good senator on it.
Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”.
Changing the tense changes it from the prediction it was to something you can take issue with by pretending OP was talking about past events.
They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure.
Yup. So Democrats are fucking useless at raising wages, and promises from them regarding raising wages should be treated as the lies they are.
They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
It certainly isn’t. But gripe about them and you’re literally trump/putin.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously.
It was in 2016 and 2020 when centrists defended the party’s treatment of the progressive wing with “Sanders isn’t even a Democrat!” When it’s convenient for centrists, he’s not a Democrat. When centrists want to steal credit for his work that centrists worked with their Republican buddies to block, suddenly he’s a Democrat.
How out of touch do you need to be to offer something lower than Walmart’s starting wage? And how many times have we heard this lie?
The headline is a little misleading, she said “at least $15” not that she wants it necessarily at exactly $15/hr and no more
Either way it’s still another bullshit lie to lead people to the polls. The day after the election it will never be brought up again
At least it’s a bullshit lie that appeals to the left, I’ve been getting tired of the Democrats’ campaign strategy of “we need to move further right.”
They are saying shit like this because they see they are bleeding the left leaning vote. They will still keep going to the right.
“The left doesn’t like our party.”
“Let’s go more conservative to appeal to voters who are probably ok with voting for the more fascistic candidate.”
“We’re losing support among leftists, better double down on being conservative.”
The Democrats lose the election.
“Why would the Left do this?”
“Clearly we didn’t move far enough to the right. The left are unreliable voters who don’t appreciate everything we do for the right.”
Except Democrats did try to pass $15 after the last election. It didn’t work and a bunch of the worst ones defected, but it wasn’t just quietly forgotten.
They let the unelected parliamentarian say they couldn’t do it. The person that has zero power in congress
Then they had a vote and failed to pass it. But they didn’t just quietly ignore the campaign.
Sanders led the group that called for the vote. As centrists are so delighted to point out when it’s convenient to them, Sanders is not a Democrat.
If it were up to Democrats, they would have thrown up their hands and gleefully announced that there was nothing they could do. Sanders is the reason you can pretend that Democrats don’t hate workers.
Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”. They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure. They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously. He caucuses with them, wins the Democratic primary in his state, competes to lead the party, and supports Democratic nominees even when they’re from the other end of the party. The centrists are disingenuous idiots but so are the leftists who do the exact same thing. Sanders likes the aesthetic of “independent”, good for him, he’s still on team (D) and not remotely the only good senator on it.
Changing the tense changes it from the prediction it was to something you can take issue with by pretending OP was talking about past events.
Yup. So Democrats are fucking useless at raising wages, and promises from them regarding raising wages should be treated as the lies they are.
It certainly isn’t. But gripe about them and you’re literally trump/putin.
It was in 2016 and 2020 when centrists defended the party’s treatment of the progressive wing with “Sanders isn’t even a Democrat!” When it’s convenient for centrists, he’s not a Democrat. When centrists want to steal credit for his work that centrists worked with their Republican buddies to block, suddenly he’s a Democrat.