• @Naich
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    -13 hours ago

    How do green campaigners not gain from it?

    • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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      Personal gain is when you yourself profit from something way more than other people do. In this case - getting boatloads of money for something that ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

      • @Naich
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        -23 hours ago

        Personal gain in the case of green lobbying is a subset of universal gain. Exactly the same as Vince’s case. It doesn’t follow the he will profit more than anyone else, as anyone else can supply meat-free food too.

        • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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          02 hours ago

          Except you say that there is universal gain from allowing dishes to not contain meat. When there is not, if it isn’t even worse. So now the lowest bidder will simply give you a less nutritious meal because they care about money not the students. And this is exactly why a law like this existed. So that a catering company won’t just feed people potatoes mixed with potatoes 100% of the time.

            • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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              245 minutes ago

              Cool. Do you trust a random catering company to get it right for millions of students? To maintain the exact diet that’s needed to get every nutrient, at a kitchen that hires random cooks and asks them to make food for 200 people at a time?

              In reality, cooking a meat based meal is easy, fast and scalable. Cooking a plant-based one and only doing that isn’t. There is a reason why laws exist - and this one exists because they were cheapening out and serving substandard meals. So they made it mandatory to at least contain some protein in the form of meat.

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      The idea is that in this case everybody profits. Universal gain ≠ personal gain, even if the campaigners are included.

      In the case of Vince, everybody profits because of the sustainability, BUT he has another very clear personal economic gain and that makes his intentions questionable. It would be more easily accepted if there wasn’t this clear conflict of interests.

      • @Sunshine@lemmy.caOP
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        -152 minutes ago

        Any claim to discredit someone pushing for healthier and more sustainable meals for the children.

        The meat and diary industries must be protected at all costs. They’re never self serving it must be the vegans /s

        • @drolex@sopuli.xyz
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          Oh FFS you’re really going out of your way to misunderstand the issue here. Nobody is claiming that the meat industry is good. People are just voicing concerns because a rich guy is doing what a rich guy usually does: defending his own interests above the common good. It might go in the same direction for a while, sure.

      • @Naich
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        23 hours ago

        Any company can provide meat-free food. There is no reason for schools to change their existing suppliers.