• SatansMaggotyCumFart
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    5717 days ago

    “What I have a problem with is the fact that if you are running for president, you are the de facto leader of your party,” she said. “You are the leader of your party, and if you run for years and years and years and years and years in a row and your party has not grown and you don’t add city council seats and you don’t add down-ballot candidates and you don’t add state electeds, that’s bad leadership.”

    “If you have been your party’s nominee for 12 years in a row – four years ago and four years before that and four years before that – and you cannot grow your movement pretty much at all and can’t pursue any successful strategy and all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off but you’re just showing up once every four years to do that, you’re not serious.”

    AOC has a very valid point here.

    • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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      1817 days ago

      What’s seriously predatory is pretending your candidate is ‘working tirelessly for a ceasefire’ when in reality they’re actively arming and funding genocide.

      That redirection was Stein’s response. AOC’s statement is 100% on point and Stein didn’t have anything to say on it.

      • @CeruleanRuin
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        Elections are not the time to be “fixing things”. Elections are for deciding on who has the best tools at the moment to fix things once the election is settled. Jill Stein doesn’t have any tools at all (unless you want to be crass and call her and her supporters tools), so all she can do is criticize what the other guys have and hope maybe they’ll get mad enough to drop some at her.

    • @Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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      17 days ago

      AOC has a very valid point here.

      Aye, a point not addressed at all by Dr. Jizz Stain as she literally just does exactly what AOC called her out on. The only problem is AOC giving her more attention than she warrants.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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        1417 days ago

        Agreeing with AOC that Jill Stein is ineffectual at growing the Green Party is supporting genocide?

        • @CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca
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          717 days ago

          NO. Not at all.

          I was being facetious but the internet don’t let that be do.

          I feel that a handful of folks will not allow Lemmy to entertain any space between being liberal and full throating Palestine. Like I have no politics when it comes to Israel and wholly support Palestine’s right to statehood… but that make me genocidal…

          • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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            917 days ago

            I respect the lack of /s, I never use it myself.

            Lots of people have been treating Jill like she’s the anti-genocide choice right now without considering her views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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              17 days ago

              Without considering the politics at large!

              No one is allowed to be liberal if they’re not literally screaming Palestinian slogans non-stop…

              If you support a cause you’re still the enemy… If you’re liberal you are against the left…? Wtf?

              • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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                417 days ago

                I wonder how organic it is at times.

                A lot of it reminds me of the 4chan chuds co-opting the Bernie bro movement during the 2016 election cycle.