Vassals of the US, and by extension of the connected organized owner class, of corporations. Government is the middleman and the rich control them all.

There is a carrot, It is corruption. There is so much going on behind the scenes right now with these guys. Any carrot would be self-serving by the administration obviously. The president has made 3.6 billion dollars he would not have since he got re-elected, that we know about according to some journalists that looked into it recently.

The amount they have made under the table in deals through surrogates is surely a lot more than that. For reference it is estimated that Putin is the richest person in the world in reality.

The truly great see money as a means to an end, these guys see money as the end.

You haven’t seen anything yet as to increasing the debt I am afraid. Every and any excuse they will milk the credit card.

If they do manage to make a supreme leader that sticks they will ad hoc default by over printing money and paying off the debts with that devalued currency.

Probably doing it at the behest of the western oil companies.

Oh I know it, I was referring to the populace being leftist I should have been more clear, all of our cities have right wing fascist police forces it seems. The politicians are subordinate to them not the other way around. They could take down any of our politicians and they know it.

In 2020 and several years before the police were sharing intelligence with the counter protesters, warning them about police actions, telling them where the protesters were going, a resting the protesters and letting those right-wing counter protesters go. But not just there, Berkeley California had something similar, propublica did some reporting about it back at that time.

That thing in Georgia was like the test case. And our great Democratic leader had nothing to say about it let alone to do about it. What a joke, our leaders already think the Republic is dead. The Bill of Rights does not apply.

All for a local protest too, like wtf? It is because the big cities have a leftist streak and the state is run by far right fascists, and they want to subordinate the free spirit of the Cities, not the least because they lost the vote in 2020.

They better hope they are not right because they will be shunted aside and often prosecuted themselves as their underlings stab them in the back and take their positions. Plus the paranoia, like stalin.

Antifa may make the terror list. Environmental groups. Animal rights groups, they are already being classed as domestic terrorists if not officially. Obviously any group opposed to Israel’s bullshit.

Protest will basically be illegal if it is disfavored. Something that UK already did. Also in Europe as well they have been moving to illegalize global warming and soon other protests. This is a West wide turn towards illiberalism and despotism.

That could be a tough sell for them now, to call everybody transgender mentally ill as a matter of course. The next logical step would be declaring all gay people mentally ill, then anyone with a fetish that is not very widespread, and so on.

The gun rights people have been tooled to support Republicans with slippery slope arguments. I do not think they would support this at this moment in time. The administration is testing the waters.

Ahh poor tools of state oppression, I am sure they will be able to talk it out with therapists funded by our tax dollars to help them get through this tough time.

The rich abuse our legal systems and it is getting worse.

The president had been involved in more than 10,000 lawsuits just at the time of his first presidency I once heard. Never faced a single real consequence for it.

Partly that is because the state of New York is rotten to the core don’t let the D next to their names fool you. They have always been a lousy corrupt state that thinks they are better than everybody else.

There has to be a way to hit these slaap suitors back with lawsuits to make them pay for doing it.

We can learn something from the Antichrist Peter Thiel that took down that news organization what was it called, by sponsoring multiple lawsuits through third parties, taking them down with their publication of Hulk Hogan’s Affair or something. Was it Grappler?

Regardless we should do stuff like that, crowdsource funding for lawsuits, maybe via private groups connected to the Fediverse here.

That would clearly be unconstitutional. Not that I trust the courts to recognize that fact at this moment in time. I suspect they cite some technicality to prevent it from being stopped completely while calling it unconstitutional.

I do not think the Federal district judges can even stop it now with the ban on Nationwide injunctions, I do not know how that would work in this case.

That was perhaps the worst decision the Supreme Court has ever made arguably. It will become clear in time just how bad of a decision that was.

I used to read Reuters every morning, earlier what this year or last year I forget, last year, they cut off only people from the United States. We need subscriptions, everybody else can still read for free as I could gather. I hear the BBC is going to be doing the same. I am stuck with the guardian right now, it is not a proper news service. I suppose I could start doing the AP again.

But becoming supreme leader is priceless. Just put it on the credit card.

Just wait till they have an excuse to see how much money they borrow to spend.

The disillusioned faction would be with us if we had a strong reform ticket.

She is a true believer, meaning she can turn against party.

There is this with Epstein and admitting it is Israeli blackmail which it is, she is against geoengineering now, like spraying sulfur dioxide in the upper atmosphere to cool the Earth, she was against the war with Iran, and she called out the genocide against Palestine. By the scorecard she’s doing a lot better than a lot of these Democrats.

She gets no credit for it saying she did not notice the bill she signed gave AI 10 years free from State interference, it is her job to know and she has teams to know that, and she voted for it again after the Senate got through with it.

Still though credit where it is due.

If payments out of pocket were reasonable maybe we are charged like a hundred times what everybody elsein the world pays.

Investors like private equity have taken over Health Care and are extracting the life savings of baby boomers for medical care that used to cost a reasonable amount of money.

Need multiplayer.

Typical. Your position is not supported so you resort to ad hominems.

The point however, regardless of if you are willing to surrender our high standards of living to the rich under Democrats that do not restore our position to before the Republicans, is that by not being popular, and not instituting that reform, the Democrats lose and allowed the Republicans to win.

We all know what the electorate is, that being better than the other guy is not enough to win, so why do we support running people only being better than the other guy that cannot win? It is very simple.