We aren’t saying there aren’t different kinds of liberals, what we are trying to tell you is that liberalism is not a left wing ideology anymore. It is centrist and anti-communist. Yes you have left leaning liberals and right leaning. But that still only makes yall center-left and center-right.

Leftists issues with liberals is because liberals, no matter what are pro-capitalist and anti-communist. Communists are anti-property and liberals are pro-property. Yes a leftist has more in common with a left leaning liberal than they do a right leaning liberal, but that does not make their interests aligned. Historically anytime liberals and communists team up, communists get backstabbed. And more often than not, it never even gets to teaming up. Historically, liberals are the ones to team up with authoritarians to crush communists.

And I’m an anarchist. I trust Marxist communists just about as much as I do liberals. That is to say not much. And I have more interests aligned with a Marxist than I do a liberal

Dude do you even know what liberal means?

Liberalism is an ideology founded in a few core principles. Capitalism and the right to own property, the power of the government originating from the masses rather than god, and inalienable rights for its citizens.

You guys are the ones redefining old words cause you don’t like the idea of not being considered leftist anymore. The overton window has shifted since the 1700s, yall are centrists now.

San Marino

Edit: nvm they elected a fascist party from 1923 till about 1945. They were neutral and never went to war, but I’m still counting it as a disqualification

You gonna quote where I said that or are you gonna keep arguing with a strawman?

Edit: nah ya you right, we should just kill them lmao

Then how do you fix it? What is your mature wisdom that magically solves the problem of fascism without harming anyone?

I aint saying we brand Nazis, but I also don’t think we should be treating them like an abused dog. They arent afraid from trauma and abuse. They want to dominate and abuse others. An abused dog does not seek violence, it lashes out because it feels threatened and cornered. Nazis are looking for violence.

It is ok to punch Nazis. If they don’t want to be harmed, literally all anyone is asking of them is to stop being Nazis. It does not seem like a big ask to me

Nah, if my support of them results in that money going to fascists, I don’t care how much good they do. I am not going to support them. Expecting the people you work with and support to uphold certain basic values is not a huge expectation. The people they are supporting actively advocate and support racist and fascistic conspiracies. It is not that much to ask that Framework avoid them and support other open source developers. Its insane to not even have that level of standards. There are loads of open source developers, and people are just asking them to avoid the ones openly being racist.

If you don’t think boycotting them till they renounce that support is reasonable, then I don’t think we have any common ground to work with.

If Framework would drop support, I’ll gladly get onw of their computers and support them. Till then, I ain’t touching them and will stick with my current computer

Damn, I didn’t even know about Framework. Wish they weren’t supportin fascists, cause I’d totally get a laptop from them.

Or, and hear me out, maybe just stop posting AI content cause clearly people don’t want it, or get over the criticism. People are going to react the way you dont like because many people, myself included, find it unethical. Like yeah, if I see something and like it, but find out it was made in a way I find unethical I am going to think lesser of it. Its called following your own principles. Like if I watch a youtuber and like their content, but then find out they plagiarized it, I am not going to like that youtuber anymore. They did something I find ethically immoral and I am not going to support it.

Soviet propoganda try not to be homoerotic challenge: Impossible

Everything only works with the right kind of people. No system is perfect and will always have people who disagree and work to destabilize it and change it. Like America isnt falling to fascism for no reason. So we should at least work towards as free and kind of a world that we can

I agree with you, but also I’m not gonna say no if they did implement UBI. Anarchist mutual aid is better than money, but UBI is better than nothing

Because those same countries were never ideologically opposed to fascism in the first place. America was a major inspiration for Hitler, namely in its jim crow laws and eugenics. Before world war 2, America loved Hitler. And the western powers are the reason why Zionism exists as an influential ideology to begin with. Britain gave the land for zionists to colonize to begin with. All of these same countries also committed the same atrocities themselves when colonizing places like the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Liberal governments have never been opposed to colonialism, genocide, or fascism.

Its different I think when it is your peers that find you annoying. And especially when what they find annoying are traits often associated with neurodivergence. For example I definitely exhibited conflict seeking behavior, I interrupted people a lot, I talked too much, had trouble paying attention to people when they are talking to me, and had trouble staying on topic. I also had a lot of trouble telling when I was bothering people, and thus did not stop when I should’ve.

Do you have to have ADHD to be annoying? No. Are you inherently annoying if you have ADHD? Also no. But ADHD makes it a lot harder to not come off as annoying to people, and I definitely struggled to not be annoying because of my neurodivergence.

I was definitely seen as an annoying kid because of my undiagnosed adhd

I just don’t understand anyone’s logic here. I feel like you can defend someone’s right to be somewhere because of their historical ties to a region, but I don’t think you can use it to deny someone else’s right to also live their cooperatively. That has been my understanding of decolonization. Its not about kicking all the colonial settlers out, but about removing the inequality and hierarchy when it comes to management of the land and living there.

However notice how I am also not pulling genetics into this. I am using historical ties. Just because you are 8% jewish or palestinian shouldn’t mean you are entitled to anything. But if you can say your mother, grandmother, whatever lived there for however long then I feel like there is an argument. But that person could be armenian, manchurian, french, swahili, whatever. To me its about your own personal ties to the land, not your ethnicity. Blood doesnt mean shit.

I agree with this. There will still end up being a good chunk of moderator discretion, but maybe we can come up with some checks for that? Something that distributes the decision making power beyond just one mod.

Except games with shitty anti-cheat like Battlefield. Those are just unplayable.

This sounds like something someone who would turn on trans people would say

I think either is a great way of balancing user safety and experience, while still allowing for individual freedom