A user wrote this very helpful guide that talks about everything.

And we also had this thread with more useful information.

Think of defederation as blocking. If you block a user, you’ll stop seeing what they share and their comments. It’s similar to what happens when an instance blocks another instance

I think it is great we have y’all here on the grad! It’s also cool that it serves as an alternative/complement to chapotraphouse in our sister instance Hexbear (love you all too my dope ass shaped queer comrades!! 🫶)

Honestly I think the automated comments are very useful…

Completely agreed! And from what I have seen so far, I think it would be possible to have an automated reply here on Lemmy too (that is my personal suspicion at least 😅). But I wanted to have such a post first to gauge the community’s opinions before investing time and resources into an automated reply. Especially because, considering one of the skills of the users of r/TheDeprogram was to dunk on the occasional libs who decided to be toxic, I would very much like to give them the same type of tools to be effective dunkers on Lemmy as well lol

I’m removing this post simply because it’s a duplicate. Thank you again for your effort in writing this!

Excellent guide! Thank you for sharing this

That’s incredibly accurate. On a personal note, it also makes my own browsing experience more pleasant when I can interact with well intentioned users who are simply chatting about theory and sharing memes.

I like having a safe, moderated communist space

Thank you for the clear answer!

Not a consistent deprogram listener or subreddit user

just a commie

Funnies aside, my personal opinion is quite similar to yours, especially the “Keep the agitprop on one side, and the fun hang out space and theory discussion here” part.

On Reddit, the Deprogram sub operated in a very similar fashion I would say. We frequently had new users who were just checking out the sub (maybe after interacting with a leftist post on Reddit or after listening to the podcast) as well as a portion of our users who were more familiar with theory and were there to answer questions and share memes.

It could be argued that Lemmy.ml - being the largest openly leftist instance that hasn’t defederated from most liberal/reactionary instances - would be the closest thing available on the Lemmyverse to Reddit as a whole (no offence to Lemmy.ml of course. I’m not trying to insult this platform by comparing it to one openly defending Zionists and their genocide).

And I’ve often seen your excellent reading list here, just like I’ve seen it being used by users that were not from 1 of those 3 main leftist instances. That level of usefulness and reach is in part what inspired me to write this whole post

I was waiting for the moment when you showed how uninterested you actually had been in this conversation because you only wanted to share your incorrect opinion.

And now, when faced with actual pushback, you started relying on the only thing you could think of in your ignorance on the topic at hand: namecalling.

We all knew you didn’t care to begin with

I made the post asking for feedback that I mentioned in my previous reply. Feel free to write what you said yesterday over there too :)

Your comment echoes something I’ve been thinking about as well.

It wouldn’t be a problem for me to prepare similar short answers that users could rely on (just like it was possible on the old sub when typing commands such as !uyghur, for example).

The “issue” in that case would be the audience itself, since defederation means that Lemmygrad and - by extension - this community too, are already separated from other instances where there might be more users who could benefit from those answers.

I’m also of the opinion that the more users we can help radicalize, or encourage to think more deeply about society, the better. But on Lemmygrad, most users are already familiar with those starting points.

I’ll make a post about this very topic tomorrow to ask the community at large for its input.

Exactly! Because Lemmygrad is already defederated from some (more popular) instances, that means that a user from one of those instances won’t be able to interact with us or our content.

When talking about users who would benefit the most from our study guide and wiki, I’m referring to people who are not openly leftist or Marxist Leninist.

But because of defederation, those users have no direct access to our community, so it might be a good idea to consider how to approach that. I will likely make a post here to ask users for their opinions and feedbacks on this

Thank you for the excellent suggestion!

I wanted to quickly bring something up about this meme because I received a report mentioning how this meme format could have racist undertones.

Without additional information, I would assume the report was referring to the way the two top figures are represented, which could be read as echoing old antisemitic caricatures (like the exaggerated and crooked noses).

I am confident that it was not OP intention to spread any bigotry by sharing this meme.

The main reason I’m bringing this up is not to personally attack OP of course, but because as Marxists we all have a responsibility to sharpen our awareness and help each other grow. And this seemed like a good chance for us to reflect on how the dominant (liberal) culture and its sense of humor can carry hidden or more subtle messages, and how we can resist them to build stronger class unity by practising critical media literacy so we don’t accidentally reproduce reactionary tropes

I actually answered a similar question just today in this comment lol

Edit: You also raise a good point

Would this be useful though, considering lemmygrad is heavily vetted against right-wing infiltration?

From my understanding you’re correct, Lemmygrad is already very protected from bad faith actors (thanks to tools like defederation and the vetting questions to sign up in the first place).

That also means however that this community is less visible to some users - specifically the ones that would benefit from those replies the most.

I would be curious to hear the community’s opinion on this so I might make a separate post :)

There’s a perfectly good explanation…I hadn’t thought about it lol

But it’s a good suggestion!

Edit: title changed

I’m working on gathering as many old automod answers as possible to make them available here too. Some of them (like the vaush fact ones) are a bit harder to gather because they were randomised replies, but this is the list of all the old automod commands that were available on Reddit:

• !trotbot - Summons the anti trot bot.
• !parenti - Summons a random Michael Parenti quote.
• !mac - Summons the automod response on MAC.
• !getinvolved - Summons a short info sheet on organizing.
• !ergodecedo - Summons a short response on ergo decedo.
• !holodomor - Summons a link to the wiki entry for holodomor.
• !imperialism - Summons a link to the wiki entry for imperialism.
• !fascism - Summons a link to the wiki entry for fascism.
• !molotov - Summons a link to the wiki entry for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
• !xinjiang - Summons a link to the wiki entry for the Uyghurs in Xinjiang.
• !class - Summons a link to the wiki entry for class conflict.
• !revisionism - Summons a link to the wiki entry for revisionism.
• !freezepeach - Summons a link to the wiki entry for free speech.
• !tiananmen - Summons a link to the wiki entry for the Tiananmen Square Protests.
• !solzhenitsyn - Summons a link to the wiki entry for Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
• !gulag - Summons a link to the wiki entry for the Gulags.
• !israel - Summons a link to the wiki entry for Israel.
• !authoritarianism - Summons a link to the wiki entry for authoritarianism.
• !freedom - Summons a link to the wiki entry for freedom.
• !whataboutism - Summons a link to the wiki entry for whataboutism.
• !orwell - Summons a link to the wiki entry for George Orwell.
• !cuba - Summons a link to the wiki entry for Cuba.
• !che - Summons a link to the wiki entry for Che Guevara.
• !yeonmi - Summons a link to the wiki entry for Yeonmi Park.
• !dprk - Summons a link to the wiki entry for the DPRK.
• !vaush - Summons a link to our wiki codex on Vaush.

Oh wow, that’s quite the difference in views! I’m guessing people are much more familiar with their individual videos than they are with their podcast (this was actually an inside joke in the sub too lol) so they look for their individual pages directly.

It’s not a bad idea at all to have a quick list of topics for the podcast episodes! But it would indeed be a bit more work, so I might have to wait to do that when I have a little more time.

Of course haha there are definitely far too many pages for a single person to know! Maybe at this point I could post directly on c/Prolewiki to ask the editors for their feedback.

I will keep thinking about this over the next days then and will remember your kind offer

“In capitalist America they revoke your passport if you don’t cry for fascists”

I appreciated the detailed reply:) I was thinking about what you said and indeed having too many pages about the same topic would likely only add unnecessary confusion and it may not make much sense in the context of an online encyclopedia.

But I was also thinking about the main goal of the deprogram wiki, which would be sort of a short list of bullet points and online videos/resources to use as a starting point for people who might be just beginning to deprogram themselves (or people who maybe have only listened to the podcast or watched a couple of videos from the trio).

I saw the ProleWiki absolute beginner reading list and it gave me the idea for this: since the main page of the deprogram is about the official podcast itself, I’m unsure whether it would make sense to add our unofficial wiki right there. But we could absolutely link it there for people to find.

From that hypothetical landing page (that might resemble something similar to the guide to organizing ), we could then link to the Main pages, where we can incorporate the information and links from the old deprogram wiki.

Would that make sense in the broader context of ProleWiki? What is your opinion on this?

I also linked the Wiki and study guide in the sidebar for easy access

Thank you for the offer of the raw markdown files. Good question! I checked the page of the Deprogram podcast on Prolewiki and I saw that now users can make smaller edits without being an editor. However I’m unsure if it’s the same for larger edits 🤔

Maybe we can ask @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml or check with the editors over at c/Prolewiki for their opinions on how to proceed