Yes, when a dictator actively oppressing his people, particularly women, says you’re doing good, you should feel proud.
Edit:
Published on his official website on Thursday, the letter addresses students whose “awakened conscience has moved them to defend the oppressed women and children of Gaza.”
Holy mother of all cognitive dissonances.
Fun fact: awful people agreeing for bad reasons doesn’t make the cause itself bad. You’re falling for one of the oldest yellow journalism tricks in the book.
This is the equivalent of the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association publishing an excerpt from Mein Kampf extolling the virtues of vegetarianism.
Didn’t Nazi Germany ban vivisection?
What do you think of George Galloway’s condemning Israel? He’s right, but he has a few flaws (though certainly not as bad as the Nazis—I was a little ticked at people citing him several hours ago, though).
Same deal, basically, though not QUITE as bad: afair Galloway is very right about some things for good reasons (Israel obviously being one of them) and very wrong about others and possibly corrupt to boot.
His faults and bad ideas are irrelevant to whether or not genocide is bad, just like the theocratic despot in the article.
okay.
he’s doing what all right wing populists are doing these days; latching onto a popular movement and using it to both improve his popularity and divide his enemies
I don’t think this is exclusive to right wing populists.
He’s simply congratulating the side he supports. Biden showed support for the Iranian protesters.
And before someone responds “um actually, Biden is as right wing as Clarence Thomas,” Bernie Sanders showed support for the Iranian protesters too.
You’d be hard pressed to find someone to the left of Bernie Sanders who doesn’t support Iranians protesting the right to not be killed for wearing a hijab improperly.
fair point!
Doesn’t Iran fund Hamas?
I’ll also grant that that Hamas probably killed a higher percentage of soldiers on Putin’s 71st birthday than Israel has Hamas members since then.
I’ll also grant that that Hamas probably killed a higher percentage of soldiers on Putin’s 71st birthday than Israel has Hamas members since then.
This is a fucking unhinged comment, beyond you using “Putins Birthday” as a dogwhistle for October 7th. Comments like this do nothing but make the Pro-Palestinian anti-Genocide movement look pro-Hamas.
The rate of civilian to soldier deaths on October 7th are the exact same 2:1 ratio that Israel is currently being criticized for. Both governments are shit when it comes to murdering civilians and neither should be praised.
Comments like this do nothing but make the Pro-Palestinian anti-Genocide movement look pro-Hamas.
some of them are.
Seems weird to be so anti-Genocide you end up supporting another Genocidal group.
Presumably you wouldn’t stand next to a Nazi who denounces Israel’s genocide.
Would you stand next to an Islamic fundamentalist doing the same?
Presumably you wouldn’t stand next to a Nazi who denounces Israel’s genocide.
Like Nick Fuentes and the other Nazis that have praised Hamas? No, I wouldn’t, there’s certainly a better way to advocate for peace than by standing next to someone who would do a Holocaust 2.0 given the chance.
Would you stand next to an Islamic fundamentalist doing the same?
Why do I have to agree with or work with Hamas to want a Palestinian State? That’s like saying I have to agree with “6 million Germans” Nakam. to criticize the Holocaust.
By that logic, since Trump supports Israel and says that Israel should finish the job, should Israel now also be proud?
Trump bad, Israeli genocide of Palestinians bad.
Absolutely! Just not agreeing with the logic that there’s any meaning behind some dipshit supporting the same thing you do. Although I admit that I chose a bad example.
Do you feel like there are only two choices? I support Israel striking back when Hamas started a war they had no chance of winning. Doesn’t mean I support how they’re doing it and I don’t think the crimes they’re committing currently are any good.
So yes, they should feel “proud” a scumbag like Trump endorses them.
In an ideal world both the students and Israel would say “wait, that piece of shit says we’re doing good, maybe we should take 5 to rethink what we’re doing”. But we don’t live in an ideal world.
As a side note, I truly envy people who can view things so clearly so easily, like unequivocally supporting Palestine or Israel without seeing the very shitty things both are (or were recently) doing. While I envy such people, I definitely don’t want to be around them - people who have easy answers to complex issues are rarely correct.
He’s not saying that to try and make Palestine or himself look good, he’s saying that to try and make Israel look bad.
That’s it.
As a Turk, let me just add:
It’s very well known that the AA is basically just Tayyip’s propoganda machine. It’s a very hard bias towards whatever he’s looking to say, at that point in time, not necessarily right or left wing.
Thank you.
Right words for the wrong guy
Exactly the guy you want supporting your cause
That’s probably why they’re writing about it: to make the uninformed equate anti genocide protesters and anyone else who objects to the atrocities being committed by the Israeli apartheid regime with him.
not all of Israel’s opponents are good; and this one funds Hamas.
That’s 100% irrelevant. Sometimes awful people support good causes for bad reasons. That doesn’t make the cause bad.
Genocide doesn’t become acceptable just because ACTUAL antisemites are anti-zionist too.
Yes, IIUC the theory goes that they did it to split support for Fatah, and if so, it seems to have worked.
Arguably, Hamas has done much for the Israeli right.
Maybe it’s just me, but while I support human rights for Palestinians, the right of Palestinians to be anywhere in Israel, and a right of return for those chased off going back not only to 1948, but earlier, say 1930, nonetheless, fwrick!, I find many of these protesters annoying, be they from Europe, that great shithole of antisemitism, California, where Indigenous were hunted for bounties, NYC where AFAIK, there is no record of the Indigenous in Manhattan getting those gilders for that prime real estate, and as for the leaders of the Muslim-majority countries, fuck Islam and their pedophile prophet (note: I’m not insulting Muslims, I’m insulting Islam).
Hey it’s not like we can pick and choose what old fucks like to say on TV or to the press… especially if it’s conveniently what Israel apologists want to happen.
That old fuck has been saying stuff like this for decades.
And your point is what exactly?
He’s not an ordinary old fuck.
He’s been helping pro-Isreal propaganda for decades—a little like George Galloway at times.
I’m still very confused as to what you’re trying to say in this thread.
not all who oppose Israel’s actions regarding Gaza—the mass murder, the genocide, if you will—are good.
Had anybody, ever, claimed that to be the case?
So I should start supporting Israel instead?
Or just move to Iran, so you can be on the “right side”
Splendid logic.
Please stop “helping.”
This would only make me doubt if I do in fact stand on the right side.
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Anyone standing up for humanity is on the right side of history. That’s a no brainer.
Is Ali Khamenei on the right side of history?
Ali Khamenei
If the U.S. and overall Western Powers minded it’s own fkin business…
The 1953 Iranian coup d’état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d’état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the U.S.- and British-instigated, Iranian army-led overthrow of the elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favor of strengthening the monarchical rule of the shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, on 19 August 1953
Isn’t that interesting? We fail to really investigate how something comes to fruition. But then again we rely on investigative journalists… who are owned by corporations who tell them what and how to report.
Had the Western powers minded its business, Iran would have still been friendly and continued to incorporate Western values. But they learned their lesson, they swayed from the path and got burned. Not making that mistake again, eh?
Yeah.
Mosaddegh was overthrown in 1953 because of US and UK, and about 25 years later, Iran became an Islamic theocracy, which has lasted for about 45 years and seems will continue into its 6th decade.
Well done, America-haters.
We did it
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Yes we know about Operation Ajax, but did you know about
Jimmy Carter’s engagement with Ruhollah Khomeini
In 2016, the BBC published a report which stated that the administration of United States President Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) had extensive contact with Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and his entourage in the prelude to the Iranian Revolution of 1979. The report was based on “newly declassified US diplomatic cables”. According to the report, as mentioned by The Guardian, Khomeini “went to great lengths to ensure the Americans would not jeopardise his plans to return to Iran - and even personally wrote to US officials” and assured them not to worry about their interests in Iran, particularly oil. According to the report, in turn, Carter and his administration helped Khomeini and made sure that the Imperial Iranian army would not launch a military coup.
Thought he died?
No that was President Raisi, who the Supreme Leader basically got to appoint.
The president died. Iran’s president is the head of government and second-highest political position, while the supreme leader is the head of state and highest political position.
Congratulations to a small percentage of US students. When Iran’s supreme leader backs you, it shouldn’t ring any alarm bells. You are definitely making wise choices.
A stopped clock is still right twice a day.
You’re correct of course! For their next protest perhaps they can be so moral the kkk supports them?
Are you capable of understanding any form of nuance? Or is the world just good vs evil to you?
If the KKK said genocide is wrong, they’d be correct. Just because the KKK said it doesn’t make it automatically wrong.
Same here.
The logic you’re following says animal rights are wrong because Hitler was a proponent of animal rights.
Last word makes this a civility violation, but the rest of the comment is not wrong.
Edited to be a bit gentler :)
And there you go! Comment restored!
