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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to HistoryPorn@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Evolution of Hokusai's "Great Wave" (1792-1831)

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Evolution of Hokusai's "Great Wave" (1792-1831)

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to HistoryPorn@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Num10ck@lemmy.world
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    note that Japanese read pictures from right to left, while Western readers read left to right. Westerners view the last image as an awesome wave and usually miss the boats, while Japanese viewers relate to the boats first and then feel how doomed they are.

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      Dude, I’ve never noticed the boats.

    • rektdeckard@lemmy.world
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      I never imagined how this would apply to images. Fascinating! I wonder what other art has a totally different tone to native RTL readers.

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        I learned this from hentai

        • modifier@lemmy.ca
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          I mean manga

          • trolololol@lemmy.world
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            Sure

            • modifier@lemmy.ca
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              But to be serious for a moment, I just happen to be watching The Great War Of Archimedes right now and it is only now dawning on me how much of the action takes place from right to left.

              Now, I believe this film was based on a Manga, so it is less surprising that it would inherently adopt that visual language, but now I am going to be watching all Japanese cinema more closely to see how fundamentally RTL impacts the approach to film making.

        • littleblue✨@lemmy.world
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          Switching hands doesn’t count.

    • MIDItheKID@lemmy.world
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      Well now I’m just confused about how I am supposed to read the image. Like… It’s numbered 1 2 3 4. Is that top left to bottom right? Which one is the “last” one? Which one is the “first” one?

      I could probably just look it up, but ehh.

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      How could you miss the 3 boats?

      • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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        Wait that’s 2 more fuckin boats? Wth!

        Anything else you wanna add? Is there a dragon somewhere I’m not seeing as well

        • CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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          Yes… BEHIND YOU!

      • Num10ck@lemmy.world
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        try flipping the picture horizontally, its a very different experience

        • littleblue✨@lemmy.world
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          So, the mariners’ perspective, then?

        • MonkderDritte@feddit.de
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          …still 3 boats.

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            deleted by creator

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    Hey, I’m going to leave this up since it’s aroused interest, but for future reference, HistoryPorn is for photographs. HistoryDrawings or HistoryArtifacts would be more appropriate for this kind of content.

    • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Lemmy isn’t really big enough yet to support small communities like that. Reddit needed to make super niche communities because it’s so busy.

      • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Clearly this belongs in HistoryDrawingsOfJapaneseWater

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      I apologize. It’s been too long since I read the rules in the sidebar.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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        No worries! I’m always happy to see contributions, just letting you know for future reference.

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    • kender242@lemmy.world
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      Would you mind linking to the other instances?

      Didn’t know I would need to subscribe to multiple families of a history porn 😅

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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        They’re in the sidebar, but

        https://lemmy.world/c/HistoryDrawings@kbin.social

        https://lemmy.world/c/HistoryArtifacts@kbin.social

        • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Each of theese communities is averaging between 1 post a week and one post a month, why not combine them into one community that could be getting 3 posts a week?

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            Yeah, this is just needless pedantism and ego-stroking.

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      What about actual historical works of pornography?

      • Valmond@lemmy.world
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        Autochrome 1907-1912

        Like this?

        Bluffing IMO.

        1907/1912 Autochrome photograph.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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        HistoryArtifacts for porn etched on some artistic physical medium, HistoryDrawings for reconstructions of pornographic historical scenes, HistoryPorn for photographic porn?

    • masquenox@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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      Removed by mod

  • d00ery@lemmy.world
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    But which way are the pictures displayed?

    1 2 
    3 4
    
    1 3
    2 4
    
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      Top left is going to be first, bottom right is last. Since bottom left is pretty close in structure to bottom right, I’m going with top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right.

      That fits the reading pattern of western cultures.

    • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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      Left right top bottom, like how we read. You can see a pretty linear evolution in the style.

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        I think that’s the intended way too, but it’s not exactly a given as other languages have different reading patterns. Japan, for instance, reads right to left, and others read vertically.

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          Yea but this is in English made for an English community. It’s pretty safe to assume.

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      I believe this is a screenshot of a Twitter post, which would make the order your first example.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      Well if it’s japanese, I’d say option B…

      But the paintings look more like A is correct.

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        If it’s Japanese if should go

        3 1

        4 2

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          Good point! I haven’t been reading enough manga to remember it’s from the right to the left …

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system

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      Right to left, top to bottom

      3 1

      4 2

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    But but AI could do it better and it’s not even ten years old yet!!!

    Also the waves would have titties

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      Also the waves would have titties

      Well I’m sold

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      And seven fingers

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        Then you need 3 titties to match

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    Very interesting, I have never seen the earlier versions before. I wonder why I can’t find a Fuji in two of those, because The Great Wave is part of a “Views of Mt. Fuji” series.

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      Painted on cloudy days.

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        Lol, that would be such a troll move in a series of Fuji paintings. As far as I known Hokusai painted mainly two things, landscapes including Mt. Fuji and explicit porn scenes. He was a trained Mt. Fuji Painter, which is a respected craft with a specialized apprenticeship in Japan btw.

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          deleted by creator

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    Huh. Started at waist high and ended as five times Mount Fuji.

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      You’re probably one of those that missed the (3) boats.

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    • MonkderDritte@feddit.de
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      What sophia?

  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
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    Well that first wave is fucking tiny.

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      That’s the OK wave. Followed by the decent wave, then the pretty good wave. The last one is the great wave.

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      Maybe the great wave is death in his eyes?

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    Through this, we can conclude that Hokusai was the first Benjamin Button, due to his perspective getting shorter each time

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    Context?

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      The Japanese artist Hokusai and his art. The last painting is quite famous but most of us haven’t seen the pieces that helped him develop his style along the way.

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        These are actually woodblock prints, not paintings. But yes Hokusai was one of the great masters of the technique. The art style here from the Edo period is called Ukiyo-e, or “floating world” / “transient world”.

    • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
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      https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_wave

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    TIDAL WAVE FROM GD REFERENCE???

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