The predominantly ludicrous lawmaker from Georgia did Biden a solid this weekend, telling Republicans the Democratic president is fiendishly attempting to make people’s lives better.

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    Is that why Obamacare is a public option? Oh wait, it’s not. In fact, Obamacare was an act that forced Americans to buy private health insurance, which I’m sure the private insurance companies secretly loved.

    RE: Living wage

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/21/health/wages-mortality-risk/index.html

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2801679?guestAccessKey=1cdec717-ea64-4ad2-b6e7-3b2ad0f24715

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      Obamacare is not a public option because they couldn’t get 100% of democrats to vote for that, because not all Democrats are neolibs or progressives. Some are just “less conservative” - see Manchin today.

      Like, he literally televized a meeting with the Republicans who pushed “death panels” to try to rally more support. He’s a President, not a king.

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          Again I’m not seeing what you’re missing.

          As a former reddit user who was a regular on /r/neoliberal I assure you I am well versed in it.

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            So then you’re aware that neoliberalism is a pro-capitalist idiology. Are you aware that socialism is, by definition, not pro-capitalist? Social democracy is the in-between point of socialism and capitalism, where the basic needs are covered, and the non-essentials are left to the free market to decide.

            Williamson is a social democrat. Obama/Hillary are not.

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              I am extremely pro-capitalist.

              One can be pro-capitalist and pro-social safety net. Sweden has greater wealth disparity than the US and uses the Nordic Model you’re trying to claim as socialist, and which is in fact a capitalist society. I am pro-union. So is Joe Biden. So are Hillary and Bill Clinton.

              Again not seeing your issue.

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                The Nordic model is social democracy, and therefore pro-capitalism. No country that I know of has implemented socialism as described by self-described Marxist economist Richard Wolff (forcing all corporations to be owned by its workers, or as we call them, worker-owned co-ops).

                I am more socialist than Williamson is, but since social democracy is the furthest left idiology I can vote for, it is what I am going to vote for. If you disagree with Williamson’s platform as listed on the link I posted, then we can agree to disagree.

                And again on the “stoned suburban mom” point, it has nothing to do with policy, so I don’t care. Attacking someone based on their “vibes” or whatever is not a path of discussion I am interested in.

                If you are a capitalist who believes in a social safety net (social democracy), then cool. I got nothing wrong with that.

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                  It literally has to do with her policy tho. It’s just the same topics with dumber actual solutions than anyone else is proposing on the D side.

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                    We can agree to disagree then. I do not think her solutions are dumb, nor do I think standard Democrats support a social democracy (which is what I consider to be the absolute bare minimum in terms of policy). I also judge Democrats based on their voting record and not what their platform says.