When the far right lashes out at you, you know you’re doing something right.
So whats it called when the far left and the far are lashing out?
Horseshoe theory. The extremes can align in support for authoritarianism due to drive for protective social legislation. Hence the saying, “fascism arrives as your friend.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
It doesn’t apply to this situation however. The right in the US is in the greatest percentage of support for Israel, at 58%.
https://zeteo.com/p/gaza-israel-genocide-poll-ceasefire-us-voters
Horseshoe theory is utter nonsense and devoid of any actual analysis, lol.
I learned about it in a Poli-Sci class decades ago. I’m open to counterpoint. Do you have any?
It’s generally anticommunist propaganda, equating Communists and Anarchists with fascists, as a way to make the liberal status quo seem “rational.” In actuality, there is nothing similar between the far left and the far right. Additionally, the claim that violence is common on the far left and far right when compared to already common violence of liberalism is additionally used to paint leftist structures in a negative light.
It’s anti-communist propaganda in as much as Marxist leninists pretend to be communist without being communist themselves. Giving communist and anarchist a bad name because ML are authoritarian like the fascist.
There is massive similarly between the ML related governments that exist and fascistic governments. The fascists perpetrate oppression and violence for their own sake in the name of capitalists and shareholders. Where ML for their own sake perpetrate oppression and violence against the people in the name of the people. Which somehow manages to be less self consistent than even the fascists.
Assessed as a whole there’s really nothing to recommend ml over many Fascist governments. Too much Freedom’s lost with too little in return.
Communism is an economic system, which doesn’t define social legislation. A social system can go from libertarian, which is full freedom from government legislation, to authoritarian, which is highly legislated social behavior. That is independent of the system of economy, which in the US is defined by more or fewer social programs, or increased or decreased taxation.
Anarchists are socially libertarian by definition. They support full civil liberty, devoid of social legislation.
I understand horseshoe theory as increased social legislation, usually beginning as a way of limiting or censoring “the opposition,” until a new leader takes office and leverages it against their opposition.
That isn’t really true, nor accurate.
Communism, chiefly, is a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society. A world republic where from each’s ability, each’s needs are satisfied. You cannot separate that from the concept of government.
“Authoritarian” and “Libertarian” are vibes-based labels. Capitalism is inherently a system where the majority do not hold power, yet by your definition it could be “libertarian” or “authoritarian.”
Horseshoe theory again is used purely to equate the left with the far-right and uphold the liberal status quo as a “sensible meeting point” and legitimize the violent system.
Did you just unironically bring up horseshoe theory?
@lemmy.world
Oh. You did.
Do you disagree with it? I’ve read a good deal of supporting evidence of it being leveraged to create totalitarian dictatorships in the past. It’s not how the far left and right always stand. With enough fear of the opposing side, coupled with blind trust in government, they can align in authoritarianism.
Yes, I disagree with it as any rational and honest person would when looking at the actions, goals, and motivations of the left, center, and right. It’s nonsense touted only by the ill-informed and political hacks who only wish to perserve the status quo and legitimize the bigotry of the far right. Even the Wikipedia article you linked is most full of information about how it is not supported by evidence or the majority of experts
Well, of course I agree that doesn’t apply to the current state of the far left and far right in the US. The far left skews socially libertarian and the far right authoritarian. I understand its application is typically when forming fascist or totalitarian dictatorships. The left will be coerced through fear to push for authoritarian policies in order to protect themselves from the far right. Then that same legislative power later gets wielded against them creating fascism.
That’s also why it’s important that the left stay away from overt censorship legislation. That’s the start of the slippery slope.
It probably means you’re an asshole who nobody likes.
Israel “Why won’t you just let us murder all these men, women, and children?”
Please stop using anti-israel language. Instead of “men,” say “hamas fighters.” Instead of “women and children,” say “hamas fighters.”
/s in case it wasn’t obvious
other Israelis worry their leaders are losing the vital war for global support.
The time to worry about that was a while back, before other western countries talked about arms restrictions and their primary supporter and supplier publicly told them no. They were riding the high of Biden sticking with them as other sentiment turned rather than recognizing they were pushing that relationship to the breaking point.
.Israel said it was carrying out “a precise counterterrorism operation to eliminate Hamas terrorists and infrastructure” in the area.
A precise operation meaning that you’re just going to level the entire place and everyone in it? “Kill them all and let God sort them out”? Fuck your genocide.
1939: Germany’s far right lashes out at Allies. Says invasion of Poland will happen.
Said it before…,Pride goeth before the fall.
Edit: Or…
You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need.
Bibi is sending Isreal into a pariah state. All to satisfy his right wing and keep him out of jail.
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Israel is not part of the Free World, but they are part of Apartheid and every country with lunatic religious nutters running it straight into the ground.
Psychopath.
Lash out at yourselves for not being able to support your own country/murderous desires.
So do you like Biden for this, since you’ve been blindly critical of Biden for “supporting genocide”? Since this is Biden escalating repercussions to Israel, this is a good thing in your eyes, right?
Or are you posting this because Israel is now being crticial of Biden and any critical message about Biden is OK with you?
Don’t be fooled.
U.S. still sending some weapons to Israel despite holding up bomb shipment over Rafah assault plans
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-stand-alone-netanyahu-biden-rafah-weapons-hamas-rcna151608
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Parliamentarian Dan Illouz, a lawmaker from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s own Likud party, said the U.S. leader’s action, “not only jeopardizes Israel but the entire free world.”
Israel’s President Isaac Herzog, considered a more moderate politician, who is not a member of Netanyahu’s far-right coalition government, appeared to chastise his more extreme colleagues on Thursday.
“Even when there are disagreements and moments of disappointment between friends and allies, there is a way to clarify the disputes and it is beholden upon all of us to avoid baseless, irresponsible and insulting statements and tweets that harm the national security and the interests of the State of Israel,” Herzog added.
Speaking Wednesday to CNN, Mr. Biden said it would be “just wrong” if U.S.-supplied weapons were used in attacks that led to mass civilian deaths in a full-scale Rafah ground offensive.
The IDF ordered people in the eastern part of the city to leave this week, sparking a desperate exodus of thousands — many of whom had already been forced to flee from other locations multiple times.
IDF tanks rolled in to take control of the Gaza side of Rafah’s crucial border crossing with Egypt on Tuesday, soon after the evacuation order was issued, and Israel said it was carrying out “a precise counterterrorism operation to eliminate Hamas terrorists and infrastructure” in the area.
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