• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    The GOP attitude toward Dreamers is just another side of their bigotry, hate, and short-thinking ignorance. We, as a society, want people to have access to health care for a multitude of reasons. But not the good ol’ GOP shitheads.

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      When veterans cant get healthcare and illegals can, theres something very wrong. What should happen is them getting deported. Otherwise, it just encourages more illegal immigrants.

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        Just because we’re not taking good enough care of our veterans doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be taking care of anyone else in our country in the meantime.

        Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free

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            “Bad” in this case is subjective, unless you can explain what is subpar about the healthcare being provided to the undocumented and we can agree to it?

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              @BobaFuttbucker When did I say there was anything subpar about the healthcare being provided to the illegals?

              It seems to be your opinion that illegals are well taken care of, but the #USA isn’t taking good enough care of our veterans. Would this mean that our poor treatment of veterans is intentional?

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                lol all I said was the quality of healthcare given to any individual depends on the observer. I made no statement of my own.

                You’re just jumping to conclusions to try to find a way to be outraged, so you can position yourself as the morally superior one.

                Please don’t make statements for me.

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      Does it not strike you as odd to say “we as a society want X, except for [approximately half of the people in our society who want the opposite of X]”?

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        Not really. People who don’t want healthcare are saying they don’t really care if diseases and misery spread to all and show an incredible, painful ignorance of science. Fuck 'em.

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          Yeah, you can’t apeal to “society has decided X” as an argument, if you also hold that half the people in society don’t count because you disagree with them. That’s actually the opposite of what ‘society’ means in that context.

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      1 year ago

      Dreamers are illegal immigrants who were abused by their parents. This does not mean we shouldnt deport them.

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          Deportion is not abuse, why on Earth would it be?

          I think we have fundementally different ideas of what abuse and deportation are

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            Deportion is not abuse

            The recipients of DACA are young people who have grown up as Americans, identify themselves as Americans, and many speak only English and have no memory of or connection with the country where they were born.

            You would send someone to a country they have no memory of, no connection to, and cannot speak the language and not call it abuse? They’re not being sent home. They’re effectively being sent to a foreign country.

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    1 year ago

    Keep pushing lies, liar…

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      Ah, Ye Olde sophist personal attack, the bastion of those with no argument to make.

      Welp, you’ve convinced me.

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        It’s not a personal attack. It’s a statement of fact. Don’t like it? Don’t lie.