Hot fuzz. Because the first watch is enjoyable, but every subsequent rewatch makes you appreciate Edgar Wright more and more. He is just the most incredibly meticulous story teller with the most dense movies.
Though, being real, I would say that it’s a movie that gets more interesting on second watch rather than being one out need to watch twice to get. I honestly haven’t ever run across a movie like that.
I honestly don’t think Primer is meant to be understood. I think I read somewhere that their goal was not to make a cohesive storyline, but rather something that was open to interpretation.
I saw a full explanation video on YouTube a couple years ago. The story makes total sense, but it’s buried in several Layers of recursion, which takes a while to resolve
Yeah, I watch that about once a year. It’s, I think, the only time travel story that actually follows it’s own rules.
Have you seen Upstream Color? Same guy, really interesting story. It can lead into Blade Runner 2049 elements about consciousness and memory.
This movie gets a lot of love among a certain crowd I feel. I watched, but I feel the diagram and timeline exploration takes so much effort and energy it’s not really a story any more. It’s just mental masturbation (kinda like tenet).
Okay this isnt a movie but a show, but arrested development (especially the early seasons) are filled with situations, puns, innuendos and jokes that are set up over several episodes, sometimes even seasons. It is impossible to catch and appreciate them all on first watch. I have seen the show probably a half dozen times over the years and i still stumble over the occasional thing i missed.
There are even some jokes where they were seeding foreshadowing, but were never able to actually have it come to fruition because the show was cancelled. My favorite of these is that Tobias is actually a black man
I don’t think so. It’s more like he’ll often say stuff that makes more sense if he were a black man. Eg. When Lindsay is hitting on Ice, Tobias says something like “she certainty has a type”. Or how the cover of “The Man Inside Me” seems to show a black man. Much like the foreshadowing of Buster’s hand, a lot of it is meant to be extremely subtle.
Arrested development was way ahead of it’s time and has some of the most clever writing of any show, especially for the time is was first made (pre Netflix.) The word play and subtle running gags are absolutely hilarious. And the characters are all written hilariously well.
Not OP, but to me it’s one where getting to the ending gives you the context/lense to reinterpret the earlier portions. Sorta like memento or fight club, where the ending recontextualizes the earlier scenes.
I had to pause that movie several times on my first watching. Not because it was bad or anything, it was amazing, but because there was so much stuff going on at once. It’s now one of my fave movies to recommend to people
One of my favorite things i caught in a second watch was a simple thing, but i really liked the little touch they did to drive home the different realities they jumped thru. Did you notice the music playing in the car when theyre talking? Its a country version of “absolutely” -madding crowd. It also explains why short round ends up quoting the lyrics when he tries to explain how weird reality has become. It’s not just a funny call out, it fits.
I really liked that little touch. There are many like that, and the film is well worth rewatching to catch them
Donnie Darko. Besides being confusing, it’s just a great story. Plus, it’s remarkably well cast.
If you have the opportunity to watch the deleted scenes, I highly recommend it - especially the one with the dad. His role in the cinematic version is pretty small, but there’s a deleted scene where he has a quiet chat with Donnie, and tells Donnie about his past mental problems. It’s fantastic, and rounds out his character perfectly.
Did you watch the theatrical or directors cut? The latter explains a LOT more.
TL;DW If I remember it all correctly. The plane crash caused a “Final Destination”-esque rift in spacetime? Or fate? Or reality? And Donnie should have died, but didn’t and because he didn’t the universe will implode unless he fixes it in time by dying. He also gains powers to see the future as part of the deal (represented by the weird trails in front of people walking) and he realizes the future is everything ending unless he dies to seal up the rift. Frank, the bunny is like a guide or messenger or something.
Is that in the director’s cut? I tend to recommend the theatrical cut. I don’t find it confusing but I can understand how it might be possible to get lost if you miss a key scene or two.
I like how this movie’s fanbase is split on a group of people recommending the theatrical cut and another group recommending the Director’s Cut. I haven’t found another movie that has something similar.
It’s been a long time since I saw the director’s cut. Having read the comment above about what the director’s cut includes I’m more inclined to continue recommending the theatrical cut. The magic of that story and it’s characters doesn’t need more exposition, especially about the fantastical elements. It’s enough to know that Donnie figure’s stuff out and takes decisive action with the knowledge he and by extension the audience has at hand.
Yeah i agree. It fascinates me though. So many of her statements could be read more than one way after knowing the trick.
I dunno if it even matters to the story, but all the makeup in the world wouldnt hide your husband’s identity from you, right? Not someone you knew for years. And she’s the only one who saw his hand fresh after the ‘surgery’. I like to wonder about what exactly she suspected, and what she meant when she said she couldn’t live this way.
I look for clues every time. Still not sure (or if you’re supposed to know) which person loved her or if either of them know who the OG was.
Having had a partner who gaslit and had basically a personality disorder, I could absolutely see someone getting driven to do what she did. You start to doubt your own ability to distinguish reality, to be able to trust yourself or anyone else. Constant fear and anxiety will make anyone go a little nuts
There’s like 15 main characters. Every scene is important but it is impossible for it all to be apparent on a first watch.
It’s really brilliant storytelling. Watching Lock To k & Two Smoking barrels, you realize that guy Ritchie might be a one trick pony. But that’s okay, it’s a great trick.
The Sixth Sense, if you can go into it blind. I’m usually pretty good at figuring out a movie’s plot twist, but this one caught me completely by surprise. Then when you watch it again you pick up on all the dropped hints.
It was my first movie by shamalama and i didn’t see the twist cuz i didn’t expect a twist. Every movie he did after i knew one was coming and they it was easy to catch the signs…badump pssh
I figured out the twist within like the first 5 minutes of my first watch (nobody spoiled it for me, but I knew that there would be a twist and was looking for one) and it made the movie pretty boring imo
Mulholland Drive. I get… angry at myself when i don’t understand a film that i know has a hidden meaning i can’t grasp so i watched it 4 times until i finally understood it. Now i am complete
My first theory was that it was just Naomi Watts’ character’s masturbation fantasy laid out on film. I still have to watch it a second time to confirm though 😬
I’ve seen it years ago, perhaps I was too young. If there is indeed a secret, then you’ve piqued my curiosity and I’m tempted to rewatch it, so don’t tell me !
Hot fuzz. Because the first watch is enjoyable, but every subsequent rewatch makes you appreciate Edgar Wright more and more. He is just the most incredibly meticulous story teller with the most dense movies.
And then you gotta go watch the breakdowns and side by sides on YouTube to fully appreciate it on another watch. Hot fuzz is one of my favorites.
Definitely Hot Fuzz! Every single throw-away line early in the film is a callback later on. It’s incredible trying to notice them all!
Quite a few are references to/from their other films too.
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Good pick. Definitely reawrding to rewatch. The supporting actor dvd commentaries are something special as well.
Fascist!
Hag!
Memento.
Though, being real, I would say that it’s a movie that gets more interesting on second watch rather than being one out need to watch twice to get. I honestly haven’t ever run across a movie like that.
Along the same lines: Inception. There’s tons of little details that you don’t pick up in your first watch.
Primer also falls into this category.
That’s a fun one. You get to see the same movie twice but it’s different both times.
Agreed!
I like primer, but I’m not sure I really understand it even with all the charts and diagrams that are out there
There’s only one chart that matters when it comes to Primer.
I don’t even have to click this link, I know where it goes 😂
I honestly don’t think Primer is meant to be understood. I think I read somewhere that their goal was not to make a cohesive storyline, but rather something that was open to interpretation.
I saw a full explanation video on YouTube a couple years ago. The story makes total sense, but it’s buried in several Layers of recursion, which takes a while to resolve
My wife and I spent a few days really digging into Primer, and I feel like we understand like… 85% of it, which is pretty good imo. Love that movie.
Yeah, I watch that about once a year. It’s, I think, the only time travel story that actually follows it’s own rules. Have you seen Upstream Color? Same guy, really interesting story. It can lead into Blade Runner 2049 elements about consciousness and memory.
One of the few movies I have rewatched.
The plot is both intricate and simple, it is very well done.
This movie gets a lot of love among a certain crowd I feel. I watched, but I feel the diagram and timeline exploration takes so much effort and energy it’s not really a story any more. It’s just mental masturbation (kinda like tenet).
Okay this isnt a movie but a show, but arrested development (especially the early seasons) are filled with situations, puns, innuendos and jokes that are set up over several episodes, sometimes even seasons. It is impossible to catch and appreciate them all on first watch. I have seen the show probably a half dozen times over the years and i still stumble over the occasional thing i missed.
I love aaall the claw jokes that show the seal gag was planned from the very beginning. “I’m a monster!”
There are even some jokes where they were seeding foreshadowing, but were never able to actually have it come to fruition because the show was cancelled. My favorite of these is that Tobias is actually a black man
Man, now i gotta watch it again. I really love the funke. Oh is his name part of this gag?
I don’t think so. It’s more like he’ll often say stuff that makes more sense if he were a black man. Eg. When Lindsay is hitting on Ice, Tobias says something like “she certainty has a type”. Or how the cover of “The Man Inside Me” seems to show a black man. Much like the foreshadowing of Buster’s hand, a lot of it is meant to be extremely subtle.
Omg you are so right!
Arrested development was way ahead of it’s time and has some of the most clever writing of any show, especially for the time is was first made (pre Netflix.) The word play and subtle running gags are absolutely hilarious. And the characters are all written hilariously well.
Everything Everywhere All At Once.
It’s just… really good.
I love how it makes just enough sense to hold the plot together. It was a lot of fun to watch.
Also, it’s the lead of the class of millennial parental apology fantasy films, one of my favorite genres ;)
https://www.vox.com/culture/23025832/everything-everywhere-all-at-once-parental-apology-fantasy-turning-red-oscars
Millennial parental apology fantasy… oh man I really love this.
Good movie but how does it require multiple viewings to understand?
Not OP, but to me it’s one where getting to the ending gives you the context/lense to reinterpret the earlier portions. Sorta like memento or fight club, where the ending recontextualizes the earlier scenes.
I had to pause that movie several times on my first watching. Not because it was bad or anything, it was amazing, but because there was so much stuff going on at once. It’s now one of my fave movies to recommend to people
One of my favorite things i caught in a second watch was a simple thing, but i really liked the little touch they did to drive home the different realities they jumped thru. Did you notice the music playing in the car when theyre talking? Its a country version of “absolutely” -madding crowd. It also explains why short round ends up quoting the lyrics when he tries to explain how weird reality has become. It’s not just a funny call out, it fits.
I really liked that little touch. There are many like that, and the film is well worth rewatching to catch them
I didn’t! Definitely gonna give this movie another watch!!
I can never not upvote Absurdist philosophy.
This is a masterpiece for sure!
not so much for understanding but, fight club is a different movie the second time around.
Just watched again last night.
Such a good movie.
Donnie Darko. Besides being confusing, it’s just a great story. Plus, it’s remarkably well cast.
If you have the opportunity to watch the deleted scenes, I highly recommend it - especially the one with the dad. His role in the cinematic version is pretty small, but there’s a deleted scene where he has a quiet chat with Donnie, and tells Donnie about his past mental problems. It’s fantastic, and rounds out his character perfectly.
I’ve watched this one 3 times and I still don’t understand it :) cool movie still!
Did you watch the theatrical or directors cut? The latter explains a LOT more.
TL;DW If I remember it all correctly. The plane crash caused a “Final Destination”-esque rift in spacetime? Or fate? Or reality? And Donnie should have died, but didn’t and because he didn’t the universe will implode unless he fixes it in time by dying. He also gains powers to see the future as part of the deal (represented by the weird trails in front of people walking) and he realizes the future is everything ending unless he dies to seal up the rift. Frank, the bunny is like a guide or messenger or something.
I don’t remember honestly. I remember having to read about the movie too kinda almost understand it.
Thanks for the explanation, now I probably have to watch it again :)
Is that in the director’s cut? I tend to recommend the theatrical cut. I don’t find it confusing but I can understand how it might be possible to get lost if you miss a key scene or two.
Don’t know. It deserves to be.
I used to have a DVD of the theatrical cut, which I got before I even knew a director’s cut existed.
I like how this movie’s fanbase is split on a group of people recommending the theatrical cut and another group recommending the Director’s Cut. I haven’t found another movie that has something similar.
It’s been a long time since I saw the director’s cut. Having read the comment above about what the director’s cut includes I’m more inclined to continue recommending the theatrical cut. The magic of that story and it’s characters doesn’t need more exposition, especially about the fantastical elements. It’s enough to know that Donnie figure’s stuff out and takes decisive action with the knowledge he and by extension the audience has at hand.
One of my favourites for sure. I just love the struggle the character has for what is and what isn’t reality in that movie.
Groundhog Day. It gets better with subsequent watches.
Watching Groundhog Day once is already like watching Groundhog Day five times
You can say that again
Bing!
You can say that again
That’s why I rewatch it every year. You can just pick a theme and watch it with that lens for the year.
It is like you are in the loop.
I had a roommate who was addicted to this movie. The frequent rewatches were annoying at first, but you’re right!
True!
The Prestige.
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When my husband is being a jerk, I tell him I want the other brother back, the one who loves me.
By the way, you can use spoiler tags on Lemmy!
::: spoiler This is a spoiler Now the movie is ruined! :::This is a spoiler
Now the movie is ruined!
The question i have on multiple rewatches that i can’t answer: does the wife know? I think she knows.
I don’t think she really could know. She is definitely suspicious but it’s such a hard conclusion to jump to without any reason to think it.
Yeah i agree. It fascinates me though. So many of her statements could be read more than one way after knowing the trick.
I dunno if it even matters to the story, but all the makeup in the world wouldnt hide your husband’s identity from you, right? Not someone you knew for years. And she’s the only one who saw his hand fresh after the ‘surgery’. I like to wonder about what exactly she suspected, and what she meant when she said she couldn’t live this way.
I look for clues every time. Still not sure (or if you’re supposed to know) which person loved her or if either of them know who the OG was.
Having had a partner who gaslit and had basically a personality disorder, I could absolutely see someone getting driven to do what she did. You start to doubt your own ability to distinguish reality, to be able to trust yourself or anyone else. Constant fear and anxiety will make anyone go a little nuts
I don’t think she knows. She may feel like “this isn’t the man I married” but not in the sense of it being literal.
I think if I was in her shoes there’s no way I’d figure it out unless it was super obvious. It’s way too unreal and it contradicts occam’s razor.
Ouch!
A few weeks ago, I finally saw this for the first time, knowing virtually nothing about the plot. WOW. I’m looking forward to watching it again!
The Big Lebowski. I’ve never seen another movie gain so much value over time and rewatches
What makes a man a man?
A pitiful sack of lies!
Okay, Dude, have it your way.
Snatch.
There’s like 15 main characters. Every scene is important but it is impossible for it all to be apparent on a first watch.
It’s really brilliant storytelling. Watching Lock To k & Two Smoking barrels, you realize that guy Ritchie might be a one trick pony. But that’s okay, it’s a great trick.
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It wasn’t till my 4th or 5th viewing that I realized when we first meet Brad Pitts character he is likely taking a shit behind some truck.
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The Sixth Sense, if you can go into it blind. I’m usually pretty good at figuring out a movie’s plot twist, but this one caught me completely by surprise. Then when you watch it again you pick up on all the dropped hints.
I was fortunate enough to see this one in theaters. Had no clues. Great reveal. It would really ruin it to know the twist going in.
What’s great, though, is that knowing the twist doesn’t ruin it. It’s worth a rewatch anyway.
I had it spoiled for me about 30 min before I went to the theater to see it by a coworker. I never forgave him.
That sucks. It’s still a good movie, but that was before everyone expected a twist out of m night shyamalan
I have never watched it and probably never will- I’m sure it’s a great movie but the twist is one of the most spoiled in internet history :(
To be fair, it is a twenty-five-year-old movie. That’s a long time to keep anything unspoiled.
It was spoiled at the time. I think I was six months late in seeing it and knew the twist. Not 100%, but enough that it completely ruined it.
It’s a very solid movie, and worth watching, even knowing the twist
I recognized the twist at a certain conversation early in the movie. It’s not really hidden, or at least not well.
It was my first movie by shamalama and i didn’t see the twist cuz i didn’t expect a twist. Every movie he did after i knew one was coming and they it was easy to catch the signs…badump pssh
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Just watched this tonight for my 12 year old son, coincidentally. He loved the twist!
I figured out the twist within like the first 5 minutes of my first watch (nobody spoiled it for me, but I knew that there would be a twist and was looking for one) and it made the movie pretty boring imo
The Big Lebowski. You pick up on stuff with each watch, and it just gets funnier when you do.
Perfect example. Almost all of the dude’s lines are things he heard a scene or two before.
There’s so many things foreshadowed in the movie that you’d only catch the second or third time around.
Mulholland Drive. I get… angry at myself when i don’t understand a film that i know has a hidden meaning i can’t grasp so i watched it 4 times until i finally understood it. Now i am complete
Basically every Lynch movie.
My first theory was that it was just Naomi Watts’ character’s masturbation fantasy laid out on film. I still have to watch it a second time to confirm though 😬
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I haven’t even watched this one. Will do.
When it finally clicked it was sooo satisfying so I’ll tell you nothing
There really is something to make out of it? I generally assume Lynch films are good because they’re weird and surprising, but I haven’t seen many
Yeah. I’m not a fan of all lynchs films but i dig this one. Have you seen it? Do you want me to tell you the secret?
I’ve seen it years ago, perhaps I was too young. If there is indeed a secret, then you’ve piqued my curiosity and I’m tempted to rewatch it, so don’t tell me !
😁👍 have fun
yea ! cheers
Bruh! I still don’t get it and I’m on my second watch. This made me feel better about it. I’ll give it more rewatches 😂
Akira. It’s weird and confusing. Goes from cyberpunk eye candy to bizarre metaphysical reality warp real quick.
Also body horror