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Abaixo de Cão@lemm.ee to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 2 years ago

France to ban female students from wearing abayas in state schools

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France to ban female students from wearing abayas in state schools

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Abaixo de Cão@lemm.ee to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 2 years ago
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The education minister says female Muslim students will not be allowed to wear the loose-fitting robe.
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    I draw the line at threatening or harming people

    Except these bans are harming people

    Sorry for not being clear in my statement. I mean harming as in: beheading, stoning, bombing, shooting, etc. Not as in hurting their feelings.

    But we agree: nobody should impose on other people what they can or cannot wear, whether it is religious symbols or pirate regalia.

    All this “enlightened” centrism bullshit does is enable oppressors

    Could you please elaborate?

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      burning rainbow flags doesn’t only hurt feelings

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        Can you elaborate? What else does it do? I’m queer, and while I don’t like seeing the rainbow flag being burnt, it doesn’t compare with receiving a beating.

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          it is a precursor to beating. Attack the symbols first and if it is socially accepted you can escalate to violence against the people. The Nazis didnt start by gassing the jews. they started with making it okay fo be hostile to them in public, denouncing them in every way and slowly ramping up the violence. Same story for any discrimination of minorities escalated into violence and murder.

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          it represents a hate crime

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      these bans harm people because they

      • encourage shitty men in the lives of these women to limit their education
      • encourage these hardcore religious communities to form and utilize their own school systems, which will indoctrinate their youth
      • encourage these families to leave France and potentially return to repressive theocratic states.
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      The fact that you think this is about “hurt feelings” rather than what it is - actual oppression that leads to real life marginalisation, violence, and death, you’re either not paying attention or are being wilfully ignorant and obtuse.

      All this “enlightened” centrism bullshit does is enable oppressors
      Could you please elaborate?

      You could open your eyes, or simply take the idea of dictating what people do and don’t wear to it’s only conclusion (it is literally oppression in its own right, no matter your personal feelings on the matter), but here, I’ll save you having to do any hard work:

      specifically:

      https://socialistworker.co.uk/what-we-think/stop-islamophobic-attacks-on-the-veil/

      https://stockholmcf.org/intl-human-rights-bodies-warn-ecj-ruling-over-headscarf-ban-panders-to-prejudice/

      https://daily.jstor.org/muslim-women-and-the-politics-of-the-headscarf/

      generally:

      https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

      https://blacklikemao.medium.com/how-liberalism-helps-fascism-d4dbdcb199d9

      https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

      https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

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        Sorry, I truly have trouble understanding your sentences. I gather that you are upset, but I’m not sure about what, exactly. I hope things turn out okay for you.

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          Lmfao, go fuck yourself you condescending wilfully ignorant fascism enabling prick. Was that clear enough for you?

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            go fuck yourself you condescending wilfully ignorant fascism enabling prick

            I will do so thinking of you 😘

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