There have been a number of attacks on journalists in Kosovo in recent years. Now, conservative Muslims in the southern Kosovar city of Prizren are agitating against a news portal and a journalist.

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    Turkey under the Kemalists is an example of a primarily Muslim nation at least attempting to build a liberal democracy.

    Yes, building a liberal democracy by using military dictatorships. When you are trying to force something on people that dont want it(at least the majority), thats when you get Erdogan. It might suck for turks living in Western Turkey and in cities like Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara but the other half of turks have a majority.

    And one of the fundamental principles of a democracy is that majority rules. You cant use the military to overthrow democratically elected governments just because you dont like their policy.

    However, i agree with your point, there are plenty of turks who selfidentity as muslim and are ok with lgbtq, etc, just like there are christians. Though i never understood how that works. Like how can the Church of Sweden participate in Pride parades. At what point something stops being christianity and becomes a social club? In the Bible is clearly says that homosexuality is bad.

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        I mean this is what homophobes use when they say “hate the sin, love the sinner”. You are still a sinner. And this isnt just some interpretation or parable, it clearly says it is an abomination. It’s just silly.

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        The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “sexual immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God.

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                These are both (the quotes I provided, Jesus’s teachings) parts of the bible. They contradict each other. Ergo, as I said, the bible is contradicting itself.

                If you want to filter the bible to be “just the teachings of Jesus” that’s your prerogative, but the vast majority of Christians are not doing that, and the bible is provided and preached in it’s full, unabridged format at churches across the world.

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          There are conservative and liberal versions of any religion. Christianity has evangelicals but also Quakers. Judaism has Reform and ultraorthodox. But we only hear about the extreme radicals and conservatives in Islam.

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              I supposed “unitarians” would have been a better choice. There are also nondenominational branches that believe in actually helping the poor and opening their doors to all.

              And for the record, I’m not Christian, so I don’t have a dog in this race.

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          Liberalism as an ideology is typically secular, so no, there isn’t “liberal Islam” anymore than there is “liberal Christianity.”

          There are, however, plenty of Muslim people that believe the role of government is protecting human rights, believe one of those rights is property, and think the best way of achieving this goal is a secular democracy.

          Turkey under the Kemalists is an example of a primarily Muslim nation at least attempting to build a liberal democracy.

          You might say it goes against fundamentalist Islam, but guess what also goes against fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The message on the screens is accompanied by images of Vullnet Krasniqi, a well-known journalist at Nacionale, and the words “Press freedom ends with offense.”

    The call to join the protest said that the singer’s performance had been incompatible with tradition and culture, was a threat to children and would lead to “degeneration.”

    When he asked some of the protesters what aspect of Peaches’ performance posed a threat to children and what they meant by “degeneration,” things turned ugly.

    On another occasion, a journalist was brutally beaten for using a sarcastic tone in a Facebook post about an ultraconservative imam from Prizren who had been given a Mercedes as a retirement present by the members of his community.

    Although radical Islam is not an immediate political threat in Kosovo, Xharra sees a dangerous phenomenon behind the campaign against Krasniqi.

    By the time of publication, DW had received no answer to a request for a comment from a government spokesperson on the campaign against the journalist and Nacionale.


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