Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) suggested Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin has some sort of financial influence over former President Trump.
In an interview with MSNBC’s “Inside with Jen Psaki,” Pelosi said Putin is the “richest person in the world” and has “stiff competition” to being named the most evil person in the world.
Pelosi asked “what does he have on Donald Trump that he’d have to constantly be catering to Putin?”
Her comments came just after Trump doubled down on his criticism of NATO and said he would encourage Russia to attack U.S. allies who fail to reach the alliance’s defense spending goals. Trump has also declined to criticize Putin for the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny in a Russian prison last week.
Jesus Christ, Democrats. Stop pussyfooting around with this shit. He’s a traitor. He’s a rapist. He wants to be a dictator. Putin controls him. Just come right out and say this shit.
I’ve said this already once today. Just say these words: “If you vote for Trump, you’re voting for a rapist.” And say it repeatedly.
They can’t even do that! Fucking baffling.
“If you vote for Trump, you’re voting for a rapist.”
This didn’t really work that first time.
Then nothing will work, but at least Dems can show some fucking spines instead of trying to compromise with traitors.
But compromising with traitors is the best way to show progressives that traitors are better regarded by the party than they’ll ever be.
The one thing everyone in Washington can agree on - progressives are the scum of the earth.
Ending the “campaign finance” gravy train, improving social safety nets to allow people to live a life free from fear and desperation, meaningful action to address climate change, fair wages…truly a capitalist’s nightmare.
Preach
That’s the tactic the Democrats used in 2016 when they lost. It seemed like a slam dunk tactic to point out that anyone voting for Trump was voting for someone who commits sexual assault against women, but his voters ate it up.
Who fucking cares about his voters? The point is to motivate everyone else to vote and maybe catch undecided voters by showing a spine.
It didn’t work in 2020 because Hilary’s campaign focused on safe states instead of battleground states. The same thing worked in 2020 because Biden campaigned better. Both won the popular vote, but one didn’t motivate where it mattered.
I agree a hundred percent but whoever is still not motivated to vote against Trump probably secretly roots for him.
Do you really think this weak-ass shit they’re doing right now will work better?
No, I don’t think either will work at all.
So do nothing?
Also didn’t say that. I was simply pointing out a fallacy somebody else made.
A judge didn’t deem him a rapist the first time.
Seems to be a positive for republicans
A tape was released where he boasted about committing sexual assault. He bragged about grabbing them by the pussy. That tape came out like a month or two before the 2016 election. An October surprise that would have sunk any other candidate in the history of the USA. His fans did not care at all. Most of them probably cheered him on.
Rape? This is the party who think it’s impossible to rape your own wife. Rape doesn’t even exist to them.
An October surprise that would have sunk any other candidate in the history of the USA.
It only sinks your campaign if your voter base disapproves of the behavior. Trump won a majority of white women voters. An outright majority. Think about that.
Our country is so fucking misogynist that white women will hear “real estate cretin grabs actress by her crouch just because he can” and reply “as is his right” as though he’s a fucking 13th century aristocrat claiming prima nocta.
This is the real primal power of a fascist campaign. You’re not bound by the rules. You are, in fact, rewarded for breaking them. And the more rules you can break without anyone stopping you, the more popular appeal you possess.
Rape doesn’t exist to MAGA people. They will vote for Trump anyway. They are not who they should be trying to reach.
Do you think that it shouldn’t be brought up?
That’s the result:
And trump just sold nearly half a million dollars in cheap chinese shoes in half a day. Idiots are idiots. And the “representative” of the LLC that was just formed a month ago to sell these shoes is Andrew Pierce, of Cloud Peak Law (which seems to be distancing themselves from that name really quickly lol) https://wyomingllcattorney.com/About.
They are a tax evasion firm. https://www.offshorealert.com/wyoming-asset-protection-law-firm-cloud-peak-seeks-to-quash-irs-summons-for-danish-tax-investigation/
Trump may be an idiot. Or he may be somebody pretending to be an idiot. But his team isn’t. They are excellent at convincing idiots that they are smart by supporting him.
I can almost guarantee you that he didn’t actually sell that many. The whole grift is to sell like 100 pairs, but say you sold 1000, and then put another 100 on eBay for 3x the price to cash in on the fomo
And trump just sold nearly half a million dollars in cheap chinese shoes in half a day.
Selling cheap imported designer goods to rubs is half the fashion industry playbook. $400 for a pair of shiny high tops is honestly a steal. Some of these sneakers go for a full four figures. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump Shoes get resold at some rally for north of a grand.
Trump may be an idiot.
The argument that Trump is an idiot keeps running counter to the comic inability for American civil authorities to meaningfully censure or deter him from doing obvious frauds, scams, and crimes. If he looks stupid, it may only be due to the fact that the whole system is fucking stupid and he’s just the clown at the front of the parade.
But the civility. What will the donors think?
Keep in mind the Trump v Biden election cycle hasn’t even started. September/October are going to be spicy.
Oh, how will Thanksgiving go?
Gun fight or football?
Sniper football. You play a full game of football and each down a sniper on each team gets to take one shot while the teams run around for their lives. Very American
Nap time
His followers know all that. They like him for what he is, not despite it.
I think they are legitimately fearful that going too hard will provoke violence.
Or rather, if you believe that these people can be deprogrammed at some point… eventually… and again become functional members of society, then you need to leave some path back.
Or rather, most people are still afraid of confronting the reality where these people actually have no path back from this collective edgy post-truth fascist-life-crisis.
I think you want war. When they are thinking long term. We all know it. But lowering themselves to his level allows A LOT more mud slinging. Which is bad enough. It’s distracting enough to give the citizens nothing. And that’s what it should be about.
Because the short term is really fucking dire. And they want war. Taking the high road and not giving to them is not going to work.
They are currently fighting the war. And winning it, because we keep pretending they aren’t. When they go low and we go high, they get what they want and fascism gets further up the beach.
Just say these words: “If you vote for Trump, you’re voting for a rapist.”
And Republicans will retort “If you vote for Biden, you’re voting for a baby murderer.”
It won’t change a single vote.
If Trump is a rapist, he should be criminally prosecuted for rape. He’s already lost multiple civil lawsuits on the subject. This should be practically trivial to accomplish.
But Democrats have been pussyfooting around an actual criminal prosecution for the last four years. They seem entirely disinclined to put their money where their mouths are and LOCK HIM UP. Instead, its just folks shouting “You’re a criminal!” from one pulpit while their peers on the GOP side retort “No, you!”
Except that “baby murderer” is what cause Republicans to do so badly a couple of years ago. Abortion has been a big loss for them.
Republicans still hold a majority of state governors’ mansions and a plurality of legislatures.
Democrats wish they could perform as badly.
When’s that red wave going to happen?
Laughing up my sleeve in '94, '02, '10, and '16, asking the same thing. Can Donald Trump defeat an unpopular incumbent party in the wake of a mediocre economic recovery while everyone is fixated on Black Crime, Illegal Immigration, and Evil China? Who can say?
But the Senate map alone promises Republicans three viable pickups in Trump-friendly Arizona, Montana, and Ohio, while the Democrats’ best shot is still Texas.
Mediocre? Biden inherited an actual trainwreck. In terms of purely technocratic policy, the recovery will be talked about for decades as a textbook template for both crisis management and economic planning. Nothing like that has ever happened in the modern era.
Biden inherited an actual trainwreck.
Its funny you should use the term trainwreck, given one of Biden’s early acts as President was to sign a bill authored by Democrat lawmakers to forbid the US Railway Workers from striking. Consequently, we’ve had a wave of train derailments and rail infrastructure failures.
Nothing like that has ever happened in the modern era.
The '08 Recession was far worse. And a great deal of the modern trainwreck stems from failures under the Obama administration to stabilize the housing market, rein in catastrophic speculative bubbles in the finance sector, and PASS UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.
All objectives Biden fumbled (or deliberately undermined) as VP back when Democrats enjoyed a 60 vote Senate majority. Is there any surprise that he’s once again unable or unwilling to address corporate mismanagement in his current role as chief executive?
The problem with the criminal prosecution for rape is that he’s LONG past the statute of limitations on that.
The only reason E. Jean Carroll was able to go after him at all is because he won’t shut up about it. The defamation is current and actionable, the rape is from 30 years ago.
That ship sailed before Y2K.
They can’t because both parties are both rapists. And they love each other.
“Jeffrey Epstein” ring a bell?
Ah yes, both parties are the same. Because Obama or Biden would totally have nominated SCOTUS judges that would have ended Roe v. Wade or threatened Chevron or decide that a man who committed treason can run for president.
You mean the Obama that literally owned the courts and intentionally didn’t codify Roe v Wade? Even though people were screaming at him to do it?
But he didn’t cause it’s a nice election carrot. 🥕
Vote for the libs! Abortion rights!
Don’t vote for a real progressive or you will all die next election!
You mean the Obama that literally owned the courts
How did he “literally own the courts?”
and intentionally didn’t codify Roe v Wade?
Please present evidence that it’s intentional.
Don’t vote for a real progressive or you will all die next election!
Who, in specific, should I vote for?
Obama says abortion rights law not a top priority - 2009
Barack Obama Blasted for Not Codifying Roe v. Wade: ‘Dem Failure’ - 2022
Go for Cornel West.
Please provide evidence that Cornell West has a chance of beating both Trump and Biden.
Because, again, I want to save my daughter’s life.
It sounds like you think I shouldn’t care about her life.
Please provide evidence that Trump and Biden have a chance to beat Cornel West
only one l.
got to spell it right because you might have to write it in.
Hope autocorrect doesn’t activate in a voting booth
He’s a traitor. He’s a rapist. He wants to be a dictator.
That is indeed true they are also corrupted and have the blood of thousands on his hands, but to believe that Putin controls the ceo of USA means that you have no clue how the state works. USA spend trillions on war yearly, many billions alone on propaganda, psyop and all sort of political and technological warfare. They spend hundreds of thousand on bulletproof clothes for the ceo and drives him around in military convoys a mile long. To believe a country that is 6 to 7 times weaker than USA has any control over his ceo it’s just naive and feeding on propaganda.
And yet he has total fealty to Putin. He praises Putin. He gives Putin his blessing to run roughshod over Europe. When he was president, he met with Putin and made the entire thing totally off the record so we have no idea what they said to each other.
I’m not sure what the U.S. spends has anything to do with what kompromat a former KGB agent might have on someone he wants in his sphere of influence.
And yet he has total fealty to Putin.
There are worst dictators than Putin such as saudi arabia kings who are well respected and supported by USA ceo and formers ceos, this does not mean these dictators have any jurisdiction over USA
He praises Putin
So does Netanyahu who you can see in plenty of pictures hugging with current USA ceo and other world leaders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu#Relations_with_foreign_leaders
"In his 2022 book, Netanyahu wrote positively about Putin and describes him as “smart, sophisticated and focused on one goal – returning Russia to its historical greatness”
He gives Putin his blessing to run roughshod over Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations
When he was president, he met with Putin and made the entire thing totally off the record so we have no idea what they said to each other.
Governments do classified meeting they don’t tell the public about daily.
I’m not sure what the U.S. spends has anything to do with what kompromat a former KGB agent might have on someone he wants in his sphere of influence.
Lean how modern warfare works, they don’t spend trillions on bullets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
Your argument seems to be “other people do it too, therefore he doesn’t have fealty to Putin.”
Which is not a very convincing argument.
Yeah I don’t think “well Netanyahu did it” has never improved my opinion on anything.
That’s to give you a picture of how politics work, you can search for any politician you like and there will be pictures of them shaking hands with mafiosi or dictators. Politicians loyalty it toward these who give them money and power.
And yet that still doesn’t mean that Trump is being used by Putin through kompramat.
Your entire “this isn’t happening with Trump” argument hinges on “this other thing is happening with different people.” Which is not how it works.
To believe that trump is a russian puppet is a really poor attempt at blaming USA problems at someone else. If you are outraged that trump has ties with the russian mafia you then should be outraged at the whole government for having the same ties and being totally rigged.
This kind of adroit aloofness to reality is why Democrats struggle so hard.
The easiest to punch opponents they’ll ever have, but they wont take a meaningful swing.
Come out and full throatedly say that voting Republican in 2024 is anti-Democratic and fascist. Fight while we’ve still got a chance.
It doesn’t help that she’s accusing everyone of being paid off by Putin or the Chinese. The last ones she accused were pro-ceasefire activists because she can’t imagine anyone would organically come to the conclusion that bombing babies is bad.
She is herself full of Chinese influence
I read about Germany and the street fights against the Nazi party brownshirts and wonder how much further until we start doing the same with red hat wearing people…
What do you think 2016-2021 was? Just because you weren’t out in the streets punching Nazis and confronting racism and fascism directly doesn’t mean that others weren’t.
I would say we’re on the other side of that page.
Where I live protests are usually about strikes. Unfortunately a large reason is because this once blue state is now orange around the mouth.
Deplorables, right?
They’re all domestic terrorists now.
Was she wrong about that? If anything, she was being generous by saying it was only half of his supporters.
No, not wrong at all. But the person was saying that democrats are stupid for not doing exactly what they did in '16
Im not a fan of Trump but where exactly is the evidence?
Sorry… you want evidence that the Republican party is anti-democratic and a fascist? Because that was what their champion made clear- him saying the last election was a fraud and him saying he wants to be a dictator “for one day” would be enough evidence for each.
The person you replied to said nothing about Russia. No matter whether or not Russia has anything to do with Trump, the Republican party is anti-democratic and fascist.
We won’t have true democracy until there’s just one Democrat name on the ballot.
What does the CIA even do, if not investigate and handle exactly this situation?
Traffic narcotics.
Hahahaha 😆 (no /s)
They probably killed Kennedy and MLK but now they’ve lost their edge?
CIA loves to prop up tyrants. Kennedy and MLK were opposed to tyrants.
📠
I feel like this would be the FBI? They were the ones tracking all the Trump campaign’s connections with Russia in 2016.
I have no reason to think she’s wrong here, but I also think people shouldn’t be “suggesting” and “hinting at” these things. Instead, people should present the evidence to the prosecutors and let the man go to prison. You don’t need any media circus for this to happen.
But then again, I guess everything is a presidential race now.
The problem is time. Trump doesn’t need any more criminal charges to send him to jail, he just needs the courts to finish doing their job, which takes time.
Did I slide to a dimension where trump hasn’t spent most of his adult life in business with Russian oligarchs? Is your response to hearing Pelosi’s lucid musings anything other than “no titty fucking shit Sherlock”? Did trump seriously not have a giant money laundering casino for Russians named the Taj Mahal here???
I am going to enjoy this reality. 😊 Checks Wikipedia 🙄 Oh, nvm. I forgot that I already live in the dimension where a preponderance of evidence isn’t enough to establish a preponderance of evidence. My bad.
She is probably right, but she also likes to accuse anyone who disagrees with her of being a Putin shill so they should find someone with better credibility.
Water is wet
Grass is green, sky is blue. More at 11!
Duh! And/or Hello!?
Cool! Now are we gonna get any laws to prohibit this national security threat? Maybe ban shady donations from billionaires both American and abroad? Because if we just ban Putin from donating directly, they can just make a shell company in New York and fund him.
We’re going to get the laws put into place to stop this, right? Anything to stop Trump from getting into the office again?
Next she’s going to suggest Alphabet has financial influence over Google!
In other news the sun is hot.
This is always said so dismissively. Like, even if everyone knows it, if it’s still a problem it’s a good idea to keep talking about it.
Better would be doing something about it, which she’s not doing. But still.
And I like beer
NO FUCKING SHIT NANCY
I’m inclined to believe this. But I wouldn’t dare repeat it without better journalistic integrity.
Any staunch political operative saying anything at all about their opponent should be treated like nothing at all had been said, much less as news.
This goes for literally every statement that comes off of Trump’s mouth and fingers too.
Any staunch political operative saying anything at all about their opponent should be treated like nothing at all had been said, much less as news.
I mean, this statement would carry more weight from someone who wasn’t the in Leadership for 30 years thanks entirely do to her prodigious fundraising abilities. For Nancy Pelosi, a woman who coordinated $37M from disgraced cryptocurrency con-artist Sam Bankman Fried in exchange for carte blanche legislative authorship, to complain about someone being financially influenced…
It isn’t that she’s wrong, its that - from Ted Cruz to Adam Schiff - getting fat stacks for your campaign / private business / family in exchange for influence over public policy is totally normal. Democrats are orders of magnitude more terrified of AIPAC than any MAGA Republican is of a Russian influence peddling campaign. And they’re all bent over and cheeks spread to JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and the rest of the mega-banks.
The only thing that makes this news is the national understanding that getting kickbacks from a billionaire psychopath in Saudi Arabia or Korea is cool and good but getting them from a National Enemy like Putin is unacceptable.
I mean, there’s a lot of evidence to support the accusation.
What other evidence do you require? All of his very well documented deals in Russia are only allowed if the Kremlin approves the contracts. Trump personally profits directly from those deals and he refused to put his holdings into a blind trust, casually continuing to profit off of dealings with the enemy.
Do these people have a multi-year brain lapse of this stuff? We suspected and had a good idea about this 4 years ago (and longer). And only now does Pelosi figure it out?
More reason to not have old farts around.
What makes you think she just figured it out? Good chance she was asked to not confirm it/talk about it publicly for some reason or didn’t feel like it was right do so. Why? No mother fucking clue (and I’m not defending her) but guaranteed people at the cia, fbi, etc have known about this for decades which would mean anyone with a security clearance probably knew as well.
Remember when we were the crazy conspiracy nut jobs because we “knew” russia helped get trump elected with a social media psy op campaign? Pepperidge farms remembers.
We all had a good idea about this when he first first ran for president. It’s been known since well before that as well.
And by “financial influence over” she means “has him by the balls”?
this is one of those things that are fairly obvious if you thought about it for a while even if there was no evidence to prove it. because, sure he is deferential to autocrat strongmen but it was to a different scale with putin.
This just in: bears found to defecate in the woods.
Has since the 1980’s.
