• themeatbridge
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    5810 months ago

    Just to be clear, we are well beyond the tipping point, have fallen off the cliff, and watching the Atlantic currents collapse is like seeing rocks hitting the ground before you do. “Oh, look, the ground approaches rapidly, and everything that hits it at this speed will be pulverized.”

    • @xor@infosec.pub
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      2910 months ago

      global tipping point, yes, buy when the Atlantic Conveyor breaks down, that’s very special tipping point that fucks up a lot of things severely and quickly…

      • themeatbridge
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        2210 months ago

        Right, but calling it a tipping point implies we have a chance to prevent it.

        Like in a movie where the bus is teetering on the edge of a cliff, and there’s an anvil falling from the sky about to hit the back of the bus and knock it over the edge, you wouldn’t say “Well the bus has almost reached its tipping point.”

        Or maybe a better analogy is a set of dominoes where you are looking at this one domino that knocks down the grand finale, but the dominoes leading to that one are already falling and have been for a long time. The collapse of the Atlantic conveyor is not the start of a chain reaction, it’s just one really big link.

  • IninewCrow
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    1910 months ago

    Not until any of this directly impacts people, like with famine, water scarcity, war, or panic from civilization collapse … no one will care about what’s going on with the world’s oceans.

    • @floofloof@lemmy.caOP
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      1810 months ago

      And then they’ll beg their leaders to do what can no longer be done. One of the reasons we’re heading down a very bad timeline is that many people really don’t seem to get the notion of a problem that must be fixed before its effects hit, and can’t be fixed once the effects are felt.

      • Rayquetzalcoatl
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        1110 months ago

        Aren’t people already begging leaders to help? But they’re not listening?

          • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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            410 months ago

            Maybe when one of Taylor Swift’s vacation homes gets swept away we’ll see some legislation passed about tires or some bullshit.

            • @bradorsomething@ttrpg.network
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              -210 months ago

              I just want to say, when I saw you were obsessed with Taylor Swift I immediately clicked to see if you’re a maga idiot. You do not disappoint at all.

              • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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                210 months ago

                Lmao obsessed with Swift am I? Maga idiot? I’ll send you $100 if you can find 5 comments with Taylor Swift’s name in them or one positive comment about trump, in my post history.

                You guys sure aren’t big on reading.

                • @andrewta@lemmy.world
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                  210 months ago

                  I just scrolled a long way back in your comment history and yeah I’m not sure where he’s getting those ideas from.

      • @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
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        510 months ago

        Western nations will realize it soon enough.

        “What surprised us was the rate at which tipping occurs,” said the paper’s lead author, René van Westen, of Utrecht University. “It will be devastating.”

  • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    710 months ago

    Isn’t this one the one that when it’s going we have livable temperatures in Europe and North America, but when it stops we get an ice age with glaciers and all that?

    I wonder what the timeline is for something like that. Like how long between this current collapsing and glaciers making it to the great lakes?