4chan daily challenge sparked deluge of explicit AI Taylor Swift images::New AI image filters are “just another obstacle to ‘defeat,’” researcher says.

  • @Tolstoshev@lemmy.world
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    10810 months ago

    I don’t see a solution to this one and we’re just going to have to live with people making pictures of whatever they want. It’s not like TS can stop me making an oil painting of her humping a dolphin or whatever.

  • M137
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    I went and looked for it since I know the AI porn “challenge” posts are on /b/ and the theme/title of the latest one is literally “child pussy edition”…

    Even for 4chan that’s fucked up. I’m done with the Internet for today, I hope those pedos get shot in the head.

    • @agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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      1810 months ago

      On the one hand, yeah, I get your point.

      On the other hand, if AI art does destroy demand for non-AI content creators, here’s the silver lining.

    • @profoundninja@sh.itjust.works
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      1010 months ago

      Thanks for the information. Was almost curious enough to look for myself.

      I wonder if some pedo is just masquerading as a typical 4chan to crowdsource content.

      Or is that place just that fucking degenerate…

      • @Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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        1510 months ago

        I wonder if some pedo is just masquerading as a typical 4chan to crowdsource content.

        Or is that place just that fucking degenerate

        It really is just that degenerate. I haven’t been there in close to a decade, but even back in the naughts and teens, it was full of pedo bullshit (right along side Nazi imagery). There may be good boards on chans, but the place is a shit hole overall.

        • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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          310 months ago

          This is why I stopped going to 4chan in the 00s after lurking for a few months. It became obvious the pedo shit wasn’t just ironic and there was a sizeable cohort which would jump around to whichever board tolerated it at the time. The language from that era then got projected into stuff like pizzagate and Q, in a way which is extremely transparent to anyone who spent even a small amotof time on the site.

        • @quindraco@lemm.ee
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          210 months ago

          It’s 4chan. It’s been the worst place on the internet for decades. It just can’t be topped.

    • Terrasque
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      310 months ago

      Even for 4chan that’s fucked up.

      Oh, sweet summer child…

    • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I remember in the 00s it was an instant ipban to post pedo shit, but also pedobear and joking about it was common. It seemed like people would post actual abuse materials to troll the site but it was quickly dealt with. I was there for “brb church” though where 4chan vigilantes lured an actual pedo and had them arrested.

      • Terrasque
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        210 months ago

        Hah as if. In the early 00s the mods were in maybe once or twice a day and there was tons of CP being posted.

        Worst I saw was a little girl chopped into pieces, and a many -page discussion / argument if it should be sorted as CP or Necro porn. That was the old 4chan.

        • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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          Yeah I just scrolled passed that shit cause it shocked me too much to engage. Not exactly proud of my b-slur days, but also wasn’t the best time in my life, and there was something oddly welcoming about the site back then. A site where everyone called each other a f*g in ironic comradery vs having it thrown at me by homophobes. Would have never associated the site with anything good though, using it was like willfully exposing yourself to something insane at the click of a button. If you were the right mix of computer nerd and socially isolated, 4chan offered something that you couldn’t get anywhere else.

          Almost 20 years later I actually value the experience of being on 4chan more because of how influential it became to online culture, and later how politics happens on the the internet, and the demographic who uses it becoming so identifiable. It’s very rare but on a few occasions I’ve come across normal people in real life who were b-slurs at the same time, and it’s crazy how recognizable it is.

    • @RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world
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      You can find TS NSFW images pretty easily. I searched to find some and see what the hubbub was all about and frankly it’s just the same old porn stills. It doesn’t matter that it has TS’s face on it. I guess some people get off on that sort of fantasy, but I was not impressed, but then that sort of stuff really doesn’t do much for me anyway.

      E: I’m not kink shaming. IMO people getting off on the fact that it was done is pretty lame.

      • @clayh@lemmy.ml
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        -2810 months ago

        “I spent hours scouring the deep web for Taylor swift nudes but I def don’t get off on that. Some guys do I hear, though. Gross, right?”

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          This comment just shows how hilariously out of your element you are lmaooo. Imagine, first of all, thinking that the deep web is the dark web, secondly that you need to access the dark web in order to find deep fakes (Are you blind?)

          I honestly couldn’t care less about this and think deepfake porn is not a good thing but like… it’s out there and it’s incredibly easy to find.

          You could literally go search “Taylor Swift deepfake porn” on Google and find it first result lmao

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              Defensive for saying you’re wrong? OK :)

              I literally verified my comment in 22 seconds by looking up the exact search term I gave you.

              What’s the deep web? You seem really educated about it from your willingness to use the term.

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                Yes I’m talking about the deep web and not the dark web 🤣🤣🤣

                Sorry if my words are too big for you to understand

                • @GiveMemes@jlai.lu
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                  310 months ago

                  I think I figured it out. You try to take this weird moral high ground over somebody correcting your misinformed comment on a forum because you jack off to Taylor Swift deepfakes and feel really bad about it.

                  Idk that’s the best I can come up with for why this upsets you so much

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                Sorry if I hit a nerve, swiftie 🙃

                Your secret is safe with me lol

    • @antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1010 months ago

      Do people actually enjoy seeing those pictures? I can sort of understand generating them for shock value, but finding them erotic or pleasing??

      • @vexikron@lemmy.zip
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        Well uh, yes. Its the internet, there are sites where people devote massive time and energy to discussing the wankability but also canonical accuracy of depictions of ‘what if 14 year old anime girl characters actually had penises that are canonically accurate and true to the art style as well’.

        At least one person is into the weirdest shit you can imagine.

        There was at one point a group of people who filmed themselves putting fleshlights in car exhausts and fucking them, then this got even more weird and people seemingly seriously said they had actual sexual attraction to vehicles, then people started fucking the exhaust pipes with no fleshlights, then someone , possibly multiple people actually seriously injured themselves this way.

        And also yes to shock value, now that 4chan is involved, its more or less ‘this is funny because it will very likely make someone angry, and also theres no real way this sort of thing can be prevented, here, lets prove it’.

        I have stared into the void, it has stared back into me, and destroyed all nearly all notions commonly assumed to define reason and humanity.

        Do not do as I have done.

        • @grue@lemmy.world
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          At least one person is into the weirdest shit you can imagine.

          “There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe weirdest shit you can imagine is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

          There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”

          (with apologies to Douglas Adams)

        • @evranch@lemmy.ca
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          210 months ago

          There was at one point a group of people who filmed themselves putting fleshlights in car exhausts and fucking them

          There was another, way funnier phase when guys just taped them into the exhaust and started up the car to see them get crazy blown out. Worth a watch if you haven’t seen just how stretchy these things are, but now I’m scared to search for “fleshlight in car exhaust”

          • @vexikron@lemmy.zip
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            Not sure of the timeline, but yes I remember that.

            I would not be surprised if something like 2% of the people who saw that were aroused enough or bored enough to… take the next step, leading to the … autophilia stuff.

            Ugh.

      • @db2@lemmy.world
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        Having not seen them it’s difficult to judge on any grounds beyond subjective morality of their creation.

  • kingthrillgore
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    1610 months ago

    I miss the days when 4chan was good.

    Okay that’s not right, 4chan was never good. I miss the days when it was bad, but it wasn’t a cesspit of sociopath trolls trying harder to outtroll other trolls and society at large.

    • @ShunkW@lemmy.world
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      1010 months ago

      When was that? I remember finding it in the early 2000s and it was awful even then. But I only spent my time there on b

    • @erwan@lemmy.ml
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      610 months ago

      Maybe it’s you who changed, and graduated from sociopath troll to sociable human being?

    • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      I was a b-slur through the 00s and I dunno if anyone would say it was “good,” but it was definitely less irony poisoned.

  • @JCreazy@midwest.social
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    1410 months ago

    If it isn’t real then what’s the point? It’s no longer Taylor Swift. I guess if you use your imagination real hard it might work.

    • @sonovebitch@lemmy.world
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      if you use your imagination real hard

      “Stop right there, criminal scum. You are infringing our Intellectual Property!” /s

    • @BleatingZombie@lemmy.world
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      310 months ago

      “Me when my lovely (but sometimes forgetful) Chinese mailroom attendant hands me an unmarked box without saying who it should be given to”

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Graphika researchers—who study how communities are manipulated online—traced the fake Swift images to a 4chan message board that’s “increasingly” dedicated to posting “offensive” AI-generated content, The New York Times reported.

    Fans of the message board take part in daily challenges, Graphika reported, sharing tips to bypass AI image generator filters and showing no signs of stopping their game any time soon.

    “While viral pornographic pictures of Taylor Swift have brought mainstream attention to the issue of AI-generated non-consensual intimate images, she is far from the only victim," López G. said.

    Rather than expecting platforms to chase down the harmful content, López G. recommended that AI companies should get ahead of the problem, taking responsibility for outputs by paying attention to evolving tactics of toxic online communities reporting precisely how they’re getting around safeguards.

    “These images originated from a community of people motivated by the ‘challenge’ of circumventing the safeguards of generative AI products, and new restrictions are seen as just another obstacle to ‘defeat,’” López G. said.

    Experts told The Times that 4chan users were likely motivated to participate in these challenges for bragging rights and to “feel connected to a wider community.”


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    • @essteeyou@lemmy.world
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      Rather than expecting platforms to chase down the harmful content, López G. recommended that AI companies should get ahead of the problem, taking responsibility for outputs […]

      What if I want to make pornographic images of myself? What if Taylor Swift wants to?

      The software is out there already, the images are life-like, and the models run offline. There’s absolutely no way of recorking that bottle now.

  • @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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    Is all this Taylor Swift content atm a not-so-subtle response to her rigging the Superbowl so she can endorse Joe Biden?

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      American right wingers really do amaze me with their conspiracies.

      From mind control vaccines, to Jewish space lasers, to Hillary Clinton running paedo rings in caverns underneath pizza shops, to Taylor Swift rigging some sports event in a way that (somehow) endorses Biden?

      Who comes up with this stuff

      • Monkey With A Shell
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        Well by all reporting the whole of Q-Anon started with some fool on 4Chan claiming to have top level gov clearance and knowing all the dirt. Once enough people repeat something as fact the people who might have been skeptical at first start to jump on board because ‘how could that many people be wrong?’.

        Massive group think from the very independent researching crowd letting things go out of control.

    • Monkey With A Shell
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      Of course as we all know, the Superbowl is the only place and time internationally known celebrities are able to express their political preferences.

    • @Guntrigger@feddit.ch
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      It’s quite impressive how many people seem to think you actually believe she is rigging the superbowl to endorse Biden, rather than just referring to that batshit theory to make a sane point.

      • @Murdoc@sh.itjust.works
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        210 months ago

        I know I’m confused as I took it as being facetious. Then again there are people that believe weird stuff like that. Maybe I was just being generous and giving them the benefit of the doubt? Or maybe they’re just trolling. 🤔

        • @Guntrigger@feddit.ch
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          I mean I actually think it’s an astute point behind the satire. The challenge probably did start on 4chan because of the hubbub going on around the conspiracy theory, if not by someone who actually believes it. Seems weird to downvote just because someone references that theory though.

      • @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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        I actually believe she’s going to announce her own candidacy and do a “Taylor’s Version” of the Constitution that technically allows each of her “eras” to serve for two terms. This is all made very clear by the Easter Eggs in her Instagram account.