• gregorum
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      5910 months ago

      Apple and Google: “Consider yourself managed.”

    • @foggy@lemmy.world
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      I had the same reaction, but then… Do you think they care?

      They’re probably the most installed application worldwide. Definitely the most installed social media application worldwide.

      I just googled it, and the top result was Facebook, and then Instagram. If that’s correct, “fucking go right ahead, I guess? Kick me off your platforms. I already dominated both of them.” -zuck, probably.

          • @ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one
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            Sure you can make a pendatic point instead of engaging the conversation.

            Considering sideloading on iOS wasn’t a thing until 17.2, the comment is functionally the same.

            Android your statement carries a bit more meaning, but I’d guess the huge majority of Android users are still only getting apps from the play store.

      • @MrNesser@lemmy.world
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        810 months ago

        Consider that result if apple and google suddenly yanked the app off the store, within 5 years facebook wouldnt exist on mobile devices.

        Sigh i can dream

      • Kusuriya
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        I doubt that would be even close to his response right now. He tried to do some level of that with Apple’s upgrades to privacy that allowed you to neuter apps basically. He thought he would get an exception because we are Facebook we will just pull out!

        What he got instead was a line in a investor call talking about how the changes in apple’s privacy and transparency rules took a bigger bite out of revenue than expected because it turns out when asked if you want to be tracked people almost always said no

      • @Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip
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        410 months ago

        They’re probably the most installed application worldwide. Definitely the most installed social media application worldwide

        Of course they are. Facebook comes pre-installed with no way to actually uninstall it.

    • @rmean@feddit.de
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      3810 months ago

      Then it’s obviously Googles, Microsofts, Mozillas or whoevers job… but certainly not Metas!

    • unalivejoy
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      1510 months ago

      Don’t be silly. Kids don’t know how to use a computer.

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      210 months ago

      As a non-user of anything Facebook… I’m astounded people trust their apps. The data hoovering is tiktok level.

  • @Copernican@lemmy.world
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    4010 months ago

    “Google and Apple should manage consent, but let me manage payments directly so I don’t have to pay them.”

  • @jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev
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    3610 months ago

    Misleading headline. I watched the hearing, what he said was that parental controls should be centralized by Apple/Google at the app store level. To simplify the process so that parents can cut access to apps for their kids without needing to manage parental controls for a bunch of apps

    • Pika
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      What is sad is this already can be done, but parents are either not educated in the process of how or don’t care enough to.

        • Bruno Finger
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          Unfortunately yes. From my 3rd grade daughter’s class she the only one with parental controls turned on on her phone. The amount of time and the things those kids see and do on the internet with unrestricted access at this age is mentally unhealthy and they are just not ready for that. Unfortunately because of that it also means I can’t fully prevent her from being exposed to that in the classroom.

  • paraphrand
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    Ok, what about the website tho, bud? Why can’t that carry over to the app? Eh?

  • @deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    1510 months ago

    Facebook does not deserve a special exemption from laws to protect children.

    He’s trying to have all the ad revenue and none of the responsibility.

    • @ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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      410 months ago

      He wants to sell kids attention to his customers. They are they easiest group to advertise to. They are super impressionable and not rational. This makes them valuable to meta.

  • DominusOfMegadeus
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    1310 months ago

    There’s so many things wrong with this I just don’t even know where to begin.

  • @taanegl@lemmy.world
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    810 months ago

    This is a hack.

    Not only will they save money on developing the functions, but it effectively sidesteps regulations by allowing kids to access adult material on their platform from another device without parental control.

    It’s basically a “have your cake and eat it too” position. We can only speculate that Zuckerbot 3000 wants an in to exploit kids.

    • Poggervania
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      Of course he does.

      One of Meta’s major value propositions for companies is its advertising tools. Marketers love marketing towards children because A) they can be impressionable, and B) they bank on kids annoying the shit out of their parents to spend money on whatever fuck random thing that’s being advertised. Marketing towards adults is harder because we got responsibilities and other things to consider before spending money willy-nilly on fun things, but kids don’t have that.

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    I’m out of the loop, what is going on that children are seeing that’s not okay?

    Don’t they have to be 13 for facebook anyway? And there’s already a Google safesearch. Isn’t it the parents job to monitor the kids? I really dont get what this fuss is about.

    • @squid_slime@lemmy.world
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      That would be the sensible assumption. Alass the year is 2024, we vote in an orange man that admitted to playing the financial system, then an older man that sniffs children…

  • YⓄ乙
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    He’s correct. Apple and google should be the one looking after Facebook.

    Edit: let’s make these companies fight , that’s how we’ll win.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In today’s online safety hearing, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg again pushed back at the idea that businesses like his should be responsible for managing parental consent systems for kids’ use of social media apps, like Facebook and Instagram.

    Last November, the company introduced a proposal that argued that Apple and Google should do more with regard to kids’ and teens’ safety by requiring parental approval when users aged 13 to 15 download certain apps.

    In other words, Meta wants to ensure that the playing field between it and its competitors remains level, despite the massive size of its social networking services, which, combined, are used by 3.14 billion people daily, as of the company’s Q3 2023 earnings announced in October.

    “So it should be pretty trivial to pass a law that requires them to make it so parents have control anytime a child downloads an app and offers consent to that,” he said.

    “I think that’s the type of legislation, in addition to some of the other ideas that you all have, that would make this a lot easier for parents,” Zuckerberg added.

    With this, consumers could request apps not to track them, hurting Meta’s advertising business and revenues.


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  • @foggy@lemmy.world
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    -410 months ago

    It is you failing to engage in the conversation.

    You’re off having a different conversation. I have no obligation to partake. You can stay on topic or fart to the wind. Idgaf.