So I was wondering, what is exactly the use case of owning a server rack with huge CPUs and 256GB of DDR4 RAM with 1PB of storage?

Obviously, I’m kind of exaggerating here, but it does seem that most homelabs are big server racks with at least two CPUs and like 20 cores in total.

Why would I want to buy a server rack with all the bells and whistles when a low-power, small NAS can do the trick? What’s the main advantage of having a huge server, compared to an average Synology NAS for example?

Honestly, I only see disadvantages tbh. It consumes way more power, costs way more money and the processing power it provides is probably only relevant for (small) businesses and not for an individual like me.

So, convince me. Why should I get a homelab instead of a regular NAS?

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    but it does seem that most homelabs are big server racks with at least two CPUs and like 20 cores in total.

    That’s just the people that post a lot online about it.

    And these racks usually start with “I found this super cheap rack server on eBay” and not an actual need.

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      And these racks usually start with “I found this super cheap rack server on eBay” and not an actual need.

      Hey! I resemble that!

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      Yep, my homelab started with a laptop (includes a ups!) And as the years went on I build larger and larger. Now that I manage a full rack, I miss my laptop.

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    Definitely go for the beefy server. You can then run benchmarks just to flex

    Although 256gb of ram may not be enought to run matrix synapse.

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    I was debating between getting myself a NAS or some PC to setup my homelab. I decided for a PC as it gives me more freedom to install and personalize it the way I want.

    At the moment I’m running FreeBSD with jails on a Q920 with an i5 processor, 16 GB of RAM, one internal SSD with 512 GB and 2 external USB SDDs with each 1 TB which costed me around 300 Euros.

    Seems more than enough for the services I want to provide to myself which are the following.

    Navidrome > serves all my music locally and remotely.

    Zabbix > to monitor my servers

    DNSMasq > ad blocking and local dns

    gitea > repo for code and other docs

    Transmission > torrenting

    Radicale > webcal and webdav

    Photoprism > local photo gallery

    Vaultwarden > Password manager

    SearXNG > search

    HAproxy > to serve my public content easily to the web

    Mastodon

    Emby > local media server

    And I run a Linux VM on bhyve to serve 2 tools that I was not able to make work easily on FreeBSD.

    Besides that, the node replicates some data from my VPS as a backup solution.

    And I can’t complain at all. That PC is doing its job just fine. No need for any rack that uses huge amount of electricity.

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    I felt similar when deciding on a server for my small lab. I’ll probably get a rack in a few years, but right now I’m at a point where an old desktop pc does the job and I’m happy with it.

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    Having multiple sufficiently-powered virtual machines makes OS development really low friction. Though I’d personally go for a blade subrack instead.

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    The big server is all about density and convenience. The thing will run many, many VMs without having to skimp on resources, and it will be easy to admin the VMs remotely.

    I have plans to pick up a big workstation to replace the little desktops I have around, and it will be more convenient since getting as console on a VM is much easier. Servers might also have a BMC, which would help admin the server.

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    Here’s my list of “maybe somedays” that I’d love to have all run off a single machine:

    1. Hash cracking. Red teaming isn’t my career yet, but it would be nice if I had the tools ready when I get to that milestone

    2. locally served “Cloud” gaming. I’m tired of being limited to a single desktop when I could be playing skyrim on my phone, but I hate supporting *aaS models—I want to own my cake and eat it too.

    3. VM server. Basically turn everything else into a thin client. Also, what @ursakhiin@beehaw.org said. If I ever want to do realistic training, and not just stick to hackthebox indefinitely, I’m going to need to mimic a full network’s worth of computers with multiple VLANs. Or have multiple different OSes emulated to do all kinds of pentesting.

    4. Finally start those Mastodon/Matrix/Lemmy/every other federated app instances that I’ve been right around the corner from hosting for ages

    5. media server

    6. Websites and web-apps, even if only locally served. Possibly have copies of wikipedia and archive.org and other highly usefulness-to-power-consumption ratio sites for when I eventually go off grid

    7. maybe email… maybe. I hear it’s more of a headache than it’s worth, though, so maybe not

    8. home IoT server. Handling all the functionalities so I don’t have to stream security cam footage to some random company’s untrustworthy server across however many hops along the way

    and probably a few other ideas i’ve had over the years that I can’t think of at the moment.

    Could I accomplish all this on a couple powerful towers and a half dozen smaller/cheaper/more power efficient devices? Certainly, but this reduces cables, network overhead, and weird edge case problems having that many devices on a single-maintainer network causes. Instead of dealing with updating, upgrading, and hardening a dozen or more devices, this would give me a single point of failure that I can build resentments against whenver it has a hiccup.

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    I started with a basic as shit NAS and was happy with it.

    Then i wanted Hardware Acceleration for my Plex Server because i wanted to stream high resolution content when i was out of the house.

    I then rebuilt my old Gaming Rig into a server.

    After i realized that i now have much more power to use i started to host a bunch of services; AdGuard, Plex, Sonarr, Radarr, Prowlarr, Overseerr, Homarr, Lidarr, SabNZBs, Kavita, Kaizoku, HomeBox, HomeAssistant, Nextcloud, FoundryVTT, PaperlessNGX, Audiobookshelf, Romm and Whisper for my HomeAssistant.

    That’s stuff i would’ve never even had the chance to host on something simple like a little NAS.

    Oh and most homelabs are NOT racks with 2 cores… in my case, old gaming PC with Ryzen 5 2600X, 16Gigs of Ram and GTX1660 Super

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    Something I’m not seeing here is many people in the cyber and info security spaces will have a homelab capable of complex configurations in order to mimic enterprise environments for their research.

    This could be as simple as a single VM or as complex as multiple segregated networks to try to traverse.

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    I have built a tiny setup in a 10" 6U rack.

    • Os6250-24p poe switch
    • 4x soquartz blade (4-8GB ram, 500GB nvme each)
    • 2x external HDD raid enclosure

    It runs a k3s cluster (on dietpi) with a couple of services:

    • searxng
    • nextcloud
    • git
    • borgbackup
    • my website

    I plan to add more stuff as the need arises. And the rack has 4 more empty slots for further blades.

    The total cost so far:

    • ~100$ per blade + soquartz (~400)
    • ~45$ per nvme (~200)
    • ~75$ per hdd HDDs (~300)
    • ~50$ for the switch
    • ~100$ for the case and random stuff

    Total ~1050$

    Mostly it is a fun learning experience, since I wanted to get better at devops. Also now I can easily use it to deploy my hobby projects (like the website) in a docker container, which makes it more fun than subscribing to a recurrent payment for a server host. Also, since I have it in my home, it doesn’t matter if there is an internet outage, I can still access the backups and the data on my nextcloud. As a result my computers are very lean and I can easily replace them without having to think about moving important data from the old machine.

    I wouldn’t want to get rid of it now.

    Whether you need a high power homelab on the other hand is up to your budget and intent. I see it similarely to cars or bikes.

    But I think a prebuilt NAS is way more expensive, less flexible and really not worth it unless you really dislike the tinkering aspect.

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    So here’s the fun thing:

    A small home nas or a plex could easily do what my fileserver ‘Enigma’ does.

    But I built Enigma in 2001. Granted she’s had her upgrades and grown from 1tb (princely back in the day!) to 25, but it’s the same server.

    This is how most of it goes. You see a tech with a giant rig doing something that a smaller commercial unit does nowadays? That didn’t exist when the custom rig was built. That’s why the rig was built. To fill a need you can’t commercially.

    Anyway that’s storage, my fuckoff ram server runs the nagios and home automation servers and is used to spin up test vms for work : P