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- android@lemdro.id
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Don’t see what is annoying about this dialog.
It shows every time you try and sideload a different app. Overall it’s probably a good idea but unlike every other warning on android there is no option to silence it forever.
Honestly, I don’t really see an issue with that. It seems no more annoying than Windows UAC or Linux sudo popups. It’s a reminder that your app may have some behavior that you wouldn’t expect from the regular sources. Mainly that it may not get regular updates along with the rest of the apps on your phone.
Of all the annoying things that Google and Android do this is pretty minor.
Yeah because the infinite malware available on the play store is so much safer
It’s also very obviously an attempt by Google to scare non-tech savvy people away from third party app stores and sideloading. Regardless of the actual risks involved, it’s very beneficial to their bottom line if people fear anything “unofficial”, so they’re going to maximize every chance to reinforce that fear. A tactic Apple and Microsoft also use to great effect.
Shame on Google where shame is due, but I don’t think this is it.
There are actual risks here. You could end up here without realizing what you’re doing. The action itself is kind of scary so any messaging around it is inherently going to be scary.
That said, Google is much more open about allowing these doors to remain open than their competition. And they don’t have nearly as much fear mongering about these things than their competition. Sure, it would help their bottom line too, but this one actually has some credibility. But you could say that about almost any decision - that doesn’t mean it’s “obviously an attempt to…”
Let’s burn Google at the stake for lots of the shit they do, but this ain’t it.
It also adds FUD, masking the issue of the play store being the greatest distributor of malware
But for example, the only official download page for “AccuWeather” is the Google Play Store. Downloading apps from unofficial sources is a common avenue for malware. If you are installing an apk from something that’s not the official page for that app, you had better know what you’re doing.
I don’t think this shows up if you’re trying to download an update to an F-Droid app, or even F-Droid itself, since those apps don’t use this feature.
I think Google Play Protect uploading all your sideloaded apps is a bigger issue than showing a warning for unofficial downloads of official apps.
The only risk I see is that maybe this could be annoying for Aurora Store users, but I would think there’s some bypass for people with degoogled roms.
Except you can’t update an app at all if the new apk was modified and thus its signature doesn’t match with the installed one. The only thing it’s trying to ‘protect’ from is updating from other sources
I mean if someone is sideloading apps I think we have to admit a bit of tech savvyness
I strongly disagree. You can literally just search like “xxx app free” and find a link to download it and click “open”. I wouldn’t consider that tech savvy at all.
that actually is dangerous though and should spark a warning. Man I don’t even remember the time when it was relatively safe to just search an app and install it.
That sounds like a good thing to me.
Can’t access the site: “ad-blocker blocker”
You can block the block-blocker. https://gist.github.com/mimukit/9540f6d8da0a9d7a12f53e1f4cd6d7bf
nice, sadly I can’t block an ad-blocker blocker using an anti-adblock-blocker rule on firefox focus :/ (😝)
I didn’t have that issue, I think uMatrix gobbled up the thing.
There are an awful lot of 3rd party scripts from many domains.
Reader mode will get around that
I really hope this will just replace the update dialogue, not add another one on top of it. Manually tapping “update” for all Fdroid apps is a huge slog already
My understanding is that this dialog won’t appear if you update apps from f-droid or other 3rd party store, but only if:
- The app was installed from one store (or just the play store, not sure), and
- You are now trying to update the app by downloading an apk from somewhere else (e.g. a browser)
That would normally fail because the signatures don’t match, but I guess there are places, like apkmirror, where you can find apks that are signed by the original developer (and so, they are authentic and 100% safe), but then google will give you a warning that you might not receive updates and such.
At least, that’s my understanding. A tiny bit annoying, but not a big deal.
If I’m understanding this right, and this basically an API that lets you pick which app store administers an app, that could be quite helpful, not harmful. I currently have fdroid, play store, and Samsung store, and I assume they try to update apps by the fully qualified name, as multiple stores show and try to update a single app instance, sometimes with weird results.
I don’t think that’s really what this is. This sounds like an additional warning screen, on top of the warning screen you already get when you manually install apps from anything other than the Play Store. I expect you’ll still get the same old warning screen even after you pass this screen the one time.
FYI, if you have root there is a Magisk module that gives FDroid the privilege to install apps without the popup.
