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YAMAPIKARIYA@lemmyfi.com to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

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YAMAPIKARIYA@lemmyfi.com to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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    “from scratch”

    It’s like a page worth of instructions you can follow verbatim excluding bootloader and network. If you watch one video of someone doing it to fill those gaps there is nothing to it.

    Source: I watched Kai Hendry speed install arch, bookmarked the video and all my machines are now arch “from scratch” in 10 minutes or less of actual keyboard time.

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      Mental Outlaw also has the great guide explaining the install step-by-step in a great detail

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        except he doesn’t talk about the difference in bootloader installation for uefi

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          Touche

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      I think calling it “a page worth” is understating it somewhat, especially if you want a full install to actually use stuff. In reality, when installing at first, you’ll be finding stuff you missed for a while, like hardware video decoding.

      Also, are you referring to just the direct instructions for one choice? Because to me, the point of installing manually is educating yourself on the choices, choosing one that suits you, and understanding what you’re doing to set it up. Of course, when you’re doing subsequent installs, you already know that stuff - but at that point you might just want to write an install script instead of running them manually.

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        I think it depends what you want out of it.

        The arch install from the ISO is a layered process. You can always add more, but a bootable install is not much over a page away. I do like to pick what’s best for me, but that’s not a prerequisite for first install. Do it, take notes, refine, and repeat.

        I don’t have an installer or anything, but I have pretty comprehensive notes of what I like (bootctl vs grub, network-manager vs systemd-networkd and friends, and so on). But to have a system that boots and optionally has a desktop environment of your choosing is not exactly a Rubik’s cube of difficulty.

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      I don’t remember the channel anymore, but there’s one guy constantly updating various setups. Like Arch with encryption, Arch with BTRFS, etc. I started with one of those videos and wrote my own step by step guide. Now I’m just following my own guide whenever I install Arch.

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        I wouldn’t dare do that. If my own guide becomes outdated I’d have wasted time and effort. But to each their own. 👍

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    Trve Arch users don’t remember their install process.

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      Can confirm. Install once and it lives forever until the hardware dies or is replaced.

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      I only remember how long it takes

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      All I remember is that I still haven’t memorised the add user command

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        curl cheat.sh/useradd
        
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          What?

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            https://cheat.sh/useradd

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              This will be useful the next time I’ll have to install arch

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              This will be useful the next time I’ll have to install arch

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      I even ported an install once from one device to another just by copying the data and installing the bootloader.

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    No big difference between those two methods of install. You get the real medal when a random upgrade breaks some software and you are able to track down the issue and corresponding solution(s).

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      is installing debian an acceptable solution(s)? :D

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        It is if that’s what you are comfortable with.

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          I’m a big proponent of using tools you already know how to use, so long as you aren’t making things needlessly harder for yourself by doing so

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        Debian is always acceptable solution

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        debian ♥️

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        I don’t know the current state of Debian installation. But not too long ago, installing Arch Linux felt much easier lmao

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      deleted by creator

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        python version bump always broke a handful of aur packages for at least a couple days for me. In general tho, all my problems were related to aur packages not getting updated at the same rate as official repos.

        switched to nixos and avoided that entire class of problems

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    Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.

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      No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??

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        The room is in shambles.

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          The room full of vampires?

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      I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme

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        One of many. Merobiba is still one of my faves.

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    Sorry

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      And everytime we kiss

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        They’re just like us

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          We’ve all got 'em

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        I get this feeling

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          And everytime we touch

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      SORRY

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    Yo Arch users. Try daily driving Linux From Scratch. I dare ya. Let’s see what you’re really made of.

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      Been there. Done that.

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    Endeavour Os was the best thing I ever used. Easy to install, out of box is minimal but sufficient. I traded my Linux Mint to be able to customize my workflow, look and feel.

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      I used it for a while too before I learned about archinstall. eOS has a great community though. I use their forum to look for answers often

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    I never had success with archinstall, just the regular installation.

    It’s kinda weird, actually.

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      I use EndeavourOS and it works without issues.

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        Jeee EOS gang!

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    Is that Bobby Hill?!

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      Yes

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrzMCGZBssM

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        Thank you I tried to figure out how one could recognize Bobby Hill in this drawing.

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          Seeing that face “in the wild” blew my damn mind.

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    I was going through some stuff and installing Arch from scratch was the only way I could feel anything at all.

    Every now and then I see that laptop and think "I should keep going and install those power management scripts ". Then I think “nah”.

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    idk why, but everytime I try archinstall it breaks in one way or another. I’m sure it works perfectly well for everyone else, I’m just cursed

    note: not seeking advice, I prefer my manually installed FDE + secureboot EFISTUB setup anyways

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      I’ve found that’s usually true with many tech things. Everyone has a great time and I’m just cursed.

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      My current issue is that I can’t remote into the machine at all beyond ssh. Any attempt at a session just refuses to work no matter what guide, fix, video, forum post, etc I follow.

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    I don’t use Arch but if I did id probably go with archinstall. I don’t see the point in going from scratch unless you absolutely need to. I could care less about bragging rights for installing an operating system lol.

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      I just don’t bother going for archinstall when regular installation “from scratch” takes 5 minutes (or 15, if you do it the first time). It is not scary and extremely simple, contrary to memes. Besides, it makes you understand the processes involved.

      Archinstall is just a little, nice helper to shorten and simplify installation even more.

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      You mean “couldn’t care less”. The way you’ve written it means that you do care a bit since you “could care less”.

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      It’s not about bragging rights, all you do is follow instructions. I just do it that way because I can set everything up exactly how I like it

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    deleted by creator

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    built as in “made the os”? If so, then yes they probably cried a lot those damn wizards

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    I still install manually just out of habit

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