Lemmings.world
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
haxor@derp.fooMB to Hacker News@derp.fooEnglish · 1 year ago

Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

gizmodo.com

external-link
message-square
9
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • technology@lemmy.world
8
external-link

Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

gizmodo.com

haxor@derp.fooMB to Hacker News@derp.fooEnglish · 1 year ago
message-square
9
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • technology@lemmy.world
Microsoft Will Charge for Windows 10 Security Updates in 2025
gizmodo.com
external-link
Once Microsoft drops support for Windows 10 in 2025, the company says users must sign up for an 'Extended Security Update' program.

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

  • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    edit: combined comments, fixed spacing/format

    Despite all the EOS dates and warnings, you can still get “free” monthly security updates for Windows 7 directly from Windows Update [1]. Windows 10 IoT LTSC support ends in 2032 [2]. If the trend continues, as long as you are OK with some morally dubious practices, you can get security updates for your installation for at least 10 years.

    [1] https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2023/11/windows6.1-kb5032250-x64_d8e46484ed20fbf8e4efd4d239070bb229a7d3f1.msu

    [2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021

    What’s morally dubious about this?

    For Windows 7 you have to manually force-install an update (from Microsoft) which unlocks further ESU updates. One can view this either as modifying software for ensuring interoperability (which is allowed in most of EU) or as bypassing DRM (which gets you a jail time under DMCA).

    For Windows 10 you have to obtain Enterprise LTSC license. Those come only via volume-deals and are not officially available for us mere mortals. On the other hand, in EU reselling licenses is explicitly allowed (no matter what EULA tells you) and there are tons of dirt-cheap second-hand LTSC licenses. Again - one can see this as either outright stealing or exercising your consumer rights.

    No idea how that applies to US laws.


    Note that the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise will continue to receive updates based on their specific lifecycles.

    This does not affect LTSC users. Updates continue at least until 2027 for mainstream support.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information


    Same as usual, they were doing this until just recently with Windows 7 updates

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information

    Windows 8 didn’t get an ESU program though, I have to assume because it didn’t get the adoption of 7 and people mostly moved on to 10.

    The difference is that the Windows 10 updates will be available as a subscription for regular consumers rather than being purely for enterprise customers. AFAIK this is a first for Microsoft.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      For Windows 10 you have to obtain Enterprise LTSC license

      And I believe you can “get” one with this

      • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Thank you for the link!

Hacker News@derp.foo

hackernews@derp.foo

Subscribe from Remote Instance

You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !hackernews@derp.foo
lock
Community locked: only moderators can create posts. You can still comment on posts.

This community serves to share top posts on Hacker News with the wider fediverse.

Rules
  1. Keep it legal
  2. Keep it civil and SFW
  3. Keep it safe for members of marginalised groups
Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 1 user / day
  • 1 user / week
  • 1 user / month
  • 1 user / 6 months
  • 36 local subscribers
  • 4.09K subscribers
  • 16.5K Posts
  • 10.4K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • haxor@derp.foo
  • BE: 0.19.11
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org